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Old 01-24-2013, 09:04 PM
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Looking for a down jacket with some kind of soft shell fabric on the out side to keep out wind and resist water. Similar to this archteryx fusion jacket
http://leaf.arcteryx.com/Product.asp.../Fusion-Jacket
Was hoping to spend under 250
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Just get the outer layer one size larger than the middle layer:

https://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...carhart+jacket

http://www.llbean.com/llb/search/?fr...page=men-039-s

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...sporting%2C256

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/s~g...et/?perPage=24

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...ds=down+jacket

you can even go for a wool inner layer:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...3Awool+sweater

A gore-tex (or similar) outer layer with a down (or synthetic) mid-outer layer and a wool mid-inner layer will give you a 6-way system.

You should be able to do this at less cost than the one you linked. You can also get the layers one at a time.
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Looking for a down jacket with some kind of soft shell fabric on the out side to keep out wind and resist water. Similar to this archteryx fusion jacket
http://leaf.arcteryx.com/Product.asp.../Fusion-Jacket
Was hoping to spend under 250
Mil surplus wool sweater, with a gore tex on top. Throw a light thermal layer under all this and it's good down to at least the teens. Plus, wool, unlike down sheds water. Had my arm up to the elbow in a river on a 20-something degree day getting a fish netted for my buddy. It was mildly wet after 20 minutes, but my arm was toasty warm.
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This one is an integrated down jacket w/ waterproof shell.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabel...h-All+Products


Personally, I'd recommend using a separate hardshell waterproof layer over a down jacket like the one below:

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/produ...AL%3BIK-982794

For me, the down parkas I own are worn for temps below freezing, where wet is not so much in play. I prefer the options inherent to layering instead of all-in-one items.

Cabelas sells quality outdoor clothing and footwear. The stuff sold under their own label is usually re-branded name manufacturer wear. Boots by Meindl for instance... I've got a Cabelas Alaskan Down Expedition Parka that I've used for decades of skiing, climbing, hunting and snowmobiling. Not lightweight, but it's a veritable hooded "sleeping bag" you can wear at sub-zero temps. They have 550/650 down fill jackets on sale for $35 - $50 right now.
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