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Old 05-18-2017, 11:26 AM
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Iv read that wearing ear plugs when not needed may be a cause...... US air force civilian for 32 years . Iv stopped pushing the button all together during a hearing test cause I could hear nothing but the ringing , only to be told I was doing fine .
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Old 07-29-2019, 03:46 AM
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I think noise-canceling earbuds is one of the best alternatives to tinnitus. It's not curable and I think we need to be careful before.
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Nope. As with anything that's incurable, there are always snake oil salesmen with a cure.

I recently read an article claiming the problem is in the brain, not the ear, which is why it's incurable and why ear drops do not work. That means it's neurological, not physiological. I interpret that to mean the brain doesn't like to process loud noises or it somehow retains the ringing that follows exposure to loud noises.

I've tested a wide range of foods to see which foods were making the ringing worse. Any processed foods, such as TV dinners, canned soups, and most canned foods might as well be the kiss of death. This may sound strange, but I've found that unsalted pistachios reduce the intensity of the ringing for me. You have to buy unsalted pistachios because salt is a trigger. Walmart sells a brand that works for me.

Wonderful Roasted & No Salt Pistachios, 16 Oz

I eat a small handful in the evening and when I wake up the next morning the ringing is greatly reduced. It's not a cure, but it's a temporary fix when the problem gets very bad. It doesn't hurt to try it to see if it helps your issue. There is no snake oil in pistachios.

I've tested pistachio oils and other derivatives, but they do not seem to help, so I do not know what is in the pistachios that makes it work for me.

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I found that asprin increases the ringing in my ears. The doc says take the 80 mg asprin, daily for heart attack prevention but the ringing becomes much worse.
Aspirin is another known trigger. It does the same thing to me.

Certain sounds trigger my tinnitus. I like playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 (old game, but much better than newer versions). That game has a flash-bang grenade that triggers both my tinnitus and recruitment. It took a while to figure it out, but I managed to hack the game and replaced the flash-bang sound with a blank file.
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Howdy!

I have lived with tinnitus and hearing loss since being drafted into the good old US Army 49 years ago. Have a rating for both. VA provides me with hearing aids but nothing can be done for the tinnitus.

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I think we'd all like to blame something for our trouble but there are folks with the issue that have not been subject to loud noises.
One study indicated that it is a synaptic connection in the brain that has shorted out .
I have several different sounds going on and not at the same rate. one is with my pulse which is easy to understand , but the other are significantly faster and at different rates as well. I have endured this for about 30 years .
Working on loud equipment I have endeavored to use PPEs , and the few times shooting with out hearing protection was with .22 . not a serious report.
I think that there are several different types of tinnitus that are treatable but having learned to live with it, I only think about it when I think about it.
There are some that have dealt with it psychologically and using special tones and things.
But if seething really works I will wait till it is over the counter product I see others giving credence .
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Yes, I know about it, which is not curable. Hey guys, I use earplugs to avoid tinnitus and bought a pair of earplugs from https://bigearinc.com. You can visit the link and hope it help you.
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Yup, working on and around aircraft in AF plus loud music. I hardly notice it anymore when there's other sounds about, only when there's no other noises. Since I listen to binaural and isochronic tones for other issues I looked into this route for tinnitus but the only one I've tried so far I didn't like. I'll be searching for another at some point.
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It's caused by the specific area of ear hairs being overwhelmed and damaged by a loud noise of a specific frequency. Imagine a bunch of electric organ keys and you pounding on the keys with your fist...eventually, one or more keys will start to stick in
the pressed position. You fix the key, get the tone to stop, by tapping on it until it unsticks. In your ear, you hear a specific tinnitus tone with the hairs damaged and pressed til they stick. You can often fix it by whistling at that specific frequency. You can hear it....whistle it to actually MAKE that exact noise. You're tapping on the keys to get the keys unstuck. Sounds stupid but it works more times than not.
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Yes, I know about it, which is not curable. Hey guys, I use earplugs to avoid tinnitus and bought a pair of earplugs from https://bigearinc.com. You can visit the link and hope it help you.
Earplugs are great for avoiding additional exposure to loud noises. I wish I had used them when I was younger. But my ENT specialist says earplugs can make tinnitus worse if you wear them too often. Cotton works better for casual use because it absorbs the sound of your voice. Earplugs trap the sound that you can hear resonating in your ears when you speak while wearing earplugs. Wearing earplugs at night is one of the worst things you can to for tinnitus.
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Old 07-31-2019, 11:29 AM
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Only options to TREAT that I am aware of that work more often than not:
1. This used to be available by prescription, too cheap to stay on the market. Niacin dissolved in Sherry, 1 tsp. 4 times a day. I HAD to be taken 4 times a day, did not work well if taken 3x a day. For some people just taking niacin pills work, but much higher success rate when dissolved in alcohol (your choice but must be brandy/sherry strength or greater). niacin 50 mg./tsp. in a sherry wine base was the Rx compound.
2. IF you are low in B-12, and you take B-12 for tinnitus, most will significantly improve per NIH studies. The lab test is questionable, if you are low, you are LOW. The "official" interp. is "any value in the lower half of normal is highly suspect... and results in the upper half of normal do not rule out B-12 deficiency". It is fairly common to be sub clinically low in B-12: it will not HURT to take, I recommend everyone over 35 take 1,000mcg OR MORE each day AT ONE TIME (less will do NO GOOD). It can NOT be timed release, the regular pill works 95% of the time, under the tongue works 99% of the time, the shot works 100% of the time. Low B-12 'can' cause any chronic pain, malfunctioning nerve, or fatigue. Am. Med. Assn. study, patients with one of these problems THAT NO ONE COULD EVER FIND A REASON FOR, with NORMAL B-12 blood levels, 30% were cured by taking B-12 (shots in the study). 30% means 70% will NOT, but cheap and safe. It 'MAY' also decrease rate of heart attack and stroke (research is NOT conclusive).
3. Hearing aids: IF your tinnitus is caused by an uneven level of hearing loss (one ear is worse than the other), AND you are willing to keep going back time after time for the fine tuning adjustments, it will almost always significantly reduce tinnitus. Some times will even treat to the point of "cured" (as long as the hearing aids are in). If hearing loss is only one ear (rare), you only need to wear one hearing aid.
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Many people claim to have "cured" their tinnitus by cleaning up their diets--simply omitting all the usual suspects and adding zinc and some other supplements that I don't recall. It's easy to find the info online.
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Mine has been around for over 20 years and is constant, high pitched background noise. I recently retired and started teaching SCUBA on the side again. What is interesting is that when I am diving (which i do a lot as a Master Scuba Diver Trainer), i often don’t hear it. Perhaps that is why Diving is such a joy to me!

Would be interesting to really document this to see if the sound is just canceled out somehow by the environmental noise/darth Vader breathing sounds, or if it’s an effect of the pressure. Sometimes I’ve commented on being ring free for a bit after a dive as well.

Any other divers care to comment?
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Yes....... things that make it worse for me are: Booze, lots of sugar, caffeine, deafening silences, exercise, and severe lack of sleep.

Eventually you just get used to it. Mine is very similar to that noise the old tube TVs would make when you first turned them on as they would “warm up”
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Yes....... things that make it worse for me are: Booze, lots of sugar, caffeine, deafening silences, exercise, and severe lack of sleep.

Eventually you just get used to it. Mine is very similar to that noise the old tube TVs would make when you first turned them on as they would ďwarm upĒ
I have the same Tinnitus. When I was younger I could hear the 15,750 Hz horizontal oscillator in a TV, even the newer ones. Now my hearing stops at 8KHz and I hear that 15,750 type sound persistently.

I blame twice weekly commutes in Canadair twin turbo prop aircraft. The props and turbines were never synched resulting in a loud beat note . I started wearing ear plugs, but the damage was done. Of course the cause could be something else, but those flights were excessively brutal.

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I've experienced both and deafness is worse by far. Think about it, what jobs are you qualified for if you can't understand what people are saying in person or on the phone?
Phones now are awful.

When certain people call me on their smartphones they are difficult to understand. I had a client who used to call me using his speakerphone during a commute and most of what he said had me scratching my head. It did not help that he liked to be very cryptic. My sister sounds fine on her smartphone until she moves it just an inch or so it sounds terrible. A woman that works for us is very loud and sounds garbled most of the time.

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Mine has been around for over 20 years and is constant, high pitched background noise. I recently retired and started teaching SCUBA on the side again. What is interesting is that when I am diving (which i do a lot as a Master Scuba Diver Trainer), i often donít hear it. Perhaps that is why Diving is such a joy to me!

Would be interesting to really document this to see if the sound is just canceled out somehow by the environmental noise/darth Vader breathing sounds, or if itís an effect of the pressure. Sometimes Iíve commented on being ring free for a bit after a dive as well.

Any other divers care to comment?
Are you doing Nitrox?

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My doctor gave me water pills for the ringing, all that did was make me pee every hour. Mine has gotten bad over the years, sitting in a quiet room is no longer quiet
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Air and Nitrox both ... but mostly Nitrox @ 32
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Air and Nitrox both ... but mostly Nitrox @ 32
Just wondering if extra O2 is helping or if it is simply the pressure working on things?
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Tinnitus and hearing loss from military service.

Now the VA has me on medication for something totally unrelated that has caused tinnitus at three different frequencies different from the original tinnitus (totaling 4, sometimes all at the same time). It is NOT a nice harmony and it keeps me from sleeping

Nothing that anyone's tried or suggested has helped, except by accident I found out orange juice with calcium and vitamin D and ubiquinol help the medication-caused tinnitus a little. Unfortunately, the ubiquinol seriously interfered with the medication, and the OJ only helps for a very short period of time. Doc is referring me to an ND (awaiting VA approval). SCUBA (compressed air) made the original tinnitus worse, so I'm not even willing to think about it now. Salt has no effect on the original tinnitus and too much makes the medication-induced tinnitus worse, so I watch it.

Meanwhile, I've been looking at clinical trials, hoping to find something that makes sense, so I can (hopefully) sign up.
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