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Old 12-07-2019, 01:12 PM
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Let me preface this with I was born long after the 60s so I can only establish what I know from reading history books.


How is today’s climate in America any different than the 1960s when people were running around rioting, bombing buildings, shooting the president and other important figures as well as draft dodging and holding mass protest? There were Democrats and Republicans then that are just as divided over segregation, civil rights and the war in Vietnam. It to me seems the country was at way more of a tipping point then than now. Those alive then and now care to point out some of the differences?

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You should probably say “political climate” in your title...I thought this was a global warming thread.

But to answer...the difference is, back then, people were more willing to take the consequences of their actions, and no one had put any ROE into place preventing the police from dispensing immediate corporal punishment.

The good ol’ boy thing was real; bad and evil men were often protected when they went too far against those labeled as “others”, because they were part of the system.

And, the things being fought for were real, and needed to be fought for.

The stuff today? Not even. It’s mostly hoaxes, delusions, and BS designed to disrupt and divide our society, being pushed by those that want to profit from the chaos that will result.
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It's pretty simple. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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Nixon ran against Kennedy in 1960. Kennedy won.

The vote was:

34,220,984 and 49.72% for Kennedy

34,108,157 and 49.55% for Nixon

Pretty damn close.

There were widespread accusations of voter fraud.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_U...#Controversies

But the nation didn't tear itself apart over a lost election.

The other difference was that the democrat party hadn't gone communist yet.
The last difference was that the majority of Americans were God fearing, hard working families where mom stayed home, ran the house and dad earned the paycheck.

Traditional America. RIP.
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I often say that if we had today's media and technology in past decades people would have gone crazy with the amount of REAL things going on.

The biggest difference was exposure IMO.
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In the 60's the Democratic Party was for the working man, today they're just into power and keeping their phone baloney jobs.
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Let me preface this with I was born long after the 60s so I can only establish what I know from reading history books.


How is today’s climate in America any different than the 1960s when people were running around rioting, bombing buildings, shooting the president and other important figures as well as draft dodging and holding mass protest? There were Democrats and Republicans then that are just as divided over segregation, civil rights and the war in Vietnam. It to me seems the country was at way more of a tipping point then than now. Those alive then and now care to point out some of the differences?
I have spoken with many people who were alive before the 1960’s, and I haven’t found even ONE that has told me the climate of anger was worse back then. They’ve all told me today is worse.
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In the 60's the Democratic Party was for the working man, today they're just into power and keeping their phone baloney jobs.
My deceased Mother and other people would agree with that. That all changed with election of Obama. All of the deep south Democrats that are Poor White people have since quit voting straight Dem. The party departed them when they starting caring more for Foreigners that Poor Americans by the way that was Black or White
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When JFK was assassinated in 1963 the ENTIRE NATION mourned. Not just the democrats. If the same was to happen today, the democrats would be cheering, hollywood would be partying 24/7, the loathsome media would be orgasmic.

"So yes, a recession would be very worth getting rid of Donald Trump and these kinds of policies," Maher reiterated.

Can you imagine his glee if POTUS was assassinated?
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When JFK was assassinated in 1963 the ENTIRE NATION mourned. Not just the democrats. If the same was to happen today, the democrats would be cheering, hollywood would be partying 24/7, the loathsome media would be orgasmic.

"So yes, a recession would be very worth getting rid of Donald Trump and these kinds of policies," Maher reiterated.

Can you imagine his glee if POTUS was assassinated?
That sort of thinking from these people just makes me sick. I could not stand Obamma-Lamma-Ding-Dong and that's putting it mildly. I still do think he was one of the absolute worst presidents we have ever had. He made Carter look good. Having said that in no way, shape or form would I want to have seen him assassinated and I sure wouldn't be doing any cheering. I suppose I'm glad I don't understand why these people think that behavior is acceptable.
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I wonder what kind of nation we would have today if JFK, RFK and MLK had not been assassinated.

I got to shake RFK's hand a week before the evil deed. To me he was just a (very) well dressed Kennedy and I was mostly starstruck by his celebrity.

I think Johnson and the 1965 democrat congress at the time were the beginning of the end.

Senate 66 (D) 33 (R)
House 288 (D) 127 (R)
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My father passed away at age 88 last year. He was a strong union believer (local union President many years ago) and a devoted straight ticket democrat. Before he passed away he said he did not know if he could vote for a democrat President again. I realize no one here knew my father but that statement was profound and shocking to me - something I thought I would never hear. All I could say to him was he did not leave the Democratic Party, they left him.

We used to argue back and forth regarding politics (in jest but but also somewhat sincere). I do miss him a great deal.

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When JFK was assassinated in 1963 the ENTIRE NATION mourned. Not just the democrats. If the same was to happen today, the democrats would be cheering, hollywood would be partying 24/7, the loathsome media would be orgasmic.

"So yes, a recession would be very worth getting rid of Donald Trump and these kinds of policies," Maher reiterated.

Can you imagine his glee if POTUS was assassinated?
They would have been gleeful had Scalia and other R’s had been killed by Bernie’s butt boy.
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I was alive then, and AFAIK, still alive now.

The level of hate is sooooooo much worse now than it was then. Hate of what is good permeates every walk of Americcan life, and people embrace what is bad and call it good.

What we fought against USSR/ Eastern Bloc during the Cold War (propaganda instead of truth, political correctness/toe the party line, persecution of Christians and Jews, etc.) is now here.

WTF happened?!!!

The biggest change between than and now is the level of Judeo-Christian faith and values. Then, they were reflected in every facet of American life... people attended church regularly, intact, functional families, and clergy and parents were respected/sought out for advice. Now, the faithful/observant are reviled, churches and synagogues are burned, Pastors are arrested for the content of their sermons, Christian students and teachers/professors cannot say/write what they really think in school, and greetings, such as "Merry Christmas" are prohibited by employers

I experienced the before and after of prayer being removed from schools. Huge difference, and not for the better.

People and society were not perfect then, but society now can only described as a cesspool.
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Back then, Socialism and Communism were bad!

Now days, the liberals embrace it!


Plus back then, there weren't hundreds of news organizations pounding their agenda into your brain 24/7

We had 3 channels and news was from 5:30 to 6:30 and at 10:00 at night

There was no rap to ruin our brains but yet some of the best rock-n-roll and country ever!

I could still leave my doors unlocked at night and drive around with a gun in my gun rack in my pick up
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The political strife in the 1960s was not the same from my perspective. We did think the country was coming apart, but we didn't have the level of lies and fraud on the part of the Democrats and the media that we see today.

The media was much more impartial. It was not considered fake news. But it was the media that turned people against the Vietnam War.

Just to set the record straight, the segregationists in the 1960s and early 1970s were the Democrats. The segregationists fought against the Equal Rights Amendment. When it was enacted, a larger percentage of Republicans voted for it than did Democrats. Bull Connor, George Wallace, and the other people demonized as segregationists were all Democrats. Martin Luther King was a Republican.

The protests against the war in Vietnam were originally against LBJ's policies. That was transferred to Nixon when he took office. I was living in Chicago during the anti-war protests when Democrat mayor Richard "The Boss" Daley gave his infamous shoot-to-kill order against anti-war protesters during the 1968 Democratic National Convention. That really enraged people and helped get Richard Nixon elected.

I'm pretty sure none of the truth is being taught in the schools today.
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The media back in the 60's was much more restrained and civil then it is today.

You had three national TV networks (CBS, NBC, and ABC). All highly respected and generally scrupulous on what was reported. You had 30 minutes of national news in the early evening. Followed by 30 minutes of local news, weather, and sports.

News on TV and in the print media focused on what the average Joe needed to know to be a good citizen. TV news especially was considered by the networks as a public duty. Ratings were secondary.

It started to change when cable came along. And especially the 24 hour "news" networks. To keep viewership ratings up, they started focusing more and more on the sensationalistic. "If it bleeds....it leads!" Things that used to be relegated to the National Enquirer sold at checkout stands was now on national TV.

Then with the advent of Youtube, things really went south. Now you can have Youtube "channels" that anyone can setup for free. And broadcast any subject from Flat Earth News to stories about the Lizard People Running the Country.

The upshot of all this is that it gives a distorted view of what "the climate" in the U.S. is like. And makes it seem far worse than it actually is.

People and ideas that used to be confined to someone ranting on a street corner or in backrooms of cafes, now can get virtually national exposure.
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The media back in the 60's was much more restrained and civil then it is today.
True. The media was also much more honest than it is today, or at least most people believed they were honest. The current media has lied so much that almost no one believes them today.

The media now believes they heavily influence elections and choose our presidents for us. And they do to the degree they can convince people that the fabricated crap they call news is the truth. Almost all news outlets declared Hillary the winner long before the election. They were ****ed when they were proven wrong. They are doing their best to assure that never happens again. We should all hope they fail miserably.
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Sad to say, not much has changed. The vitriol has increased. The big difference is, back when, people were not labeled as 'evil' because you didn't share someone else's given point of view.
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