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what are different pressure points or different items you can use as a kubaton
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You can use anything that resembles a short stick, including a short stick.
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Pressure points are neck, thigh, knee cap, groin, under arm.
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You just hammer fist the guy in the head with the thing.

And so use pretty much anything that you can hold in your fist.

If I get in to a fight where I have to start using a weapon. I am not going to poke someone in a pressure point.

It is silly.

A fight isn't this slow step by step process where you have time to mess around.
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You just hammer fist the guy in the head with the thing.

And so use pretty much anything that you can hold in your fist.

If I get in to a fight where I have to start using a weapon. I am not going to poke someone in a pressure point.

It is silly.

A fight isn't this slow step by step process where you have time to mess around.
So says the untrained

The pressure point is meant to be a first strike in the attack, which is hopefully disabling. I once saw a guy go up to another who was mouthing off. He extended his fingers and truck the guy in the throat. End of conflict.

Most were expecting this guy to puff out his chest, say words eye to eye. He didn't do any of that. He casually walked up to the guy, lulling him into a false sense of security that physical conflict was not imminent, but words would be exchanged.

The pressure point attack did all the talking. Impressive display of martial art against an amateur antagonist.
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Learn a few tricks and no extra tools needed. A backfist works every time.

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Learn a few tricks and no extra tools needed. A backfist works every time.

Pimp VS Karate Expert - YouTube
Not every time. Do not back fist someone in the mouth. I learned that lesson the hard way.
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My Cold Steel Voyager Tanto serves very well as a "kubaton" with the blade closed.
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You just hammer fist the guy in the head with the thing.

And so use pretty much anything that you can hold in your fist.

If I get in to a fight where I have to start using a weapon. I am not going to poke someone in a pressure point.

It is silly.

A fight isn't this slow step by step process where you have time to mess around.
So says the untrained

The pressure point is meant to be a first strike in the attack, which is hopefully disabling. I once saw a guy go up to another who was mouthing off. He extended his fingers and truck the guy in the throat. End of conflict.

Most were expecting this guy to puff out his chest, say words eye to eye. He didn't do any of that. He casually walked up to the guy, lulling him into a false sense of security that physical conflict was not imminent, but words would be exchanged.

The pressure point attack did all the talking. Impressive display of martial art against an amateur antagonist.
About a week in to my bouncing career the guy next to me busted a dude in the face with a motarola radio. Just about killed him.

In the last 20 years I have hit people and been hit with pretty much everything. And pressure points basically wind you up in a situation where you are fighting for the weapon that you cleverly tried to poke the guy with.

Because it hurts and then he turns around and grabs it.

And the training (which I have done) is mostly stupid. Looks good in demos. Doesn't factor the realities of a real fight.
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https://youtu.be/vWkGO2ONCHI
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a good fighter should be able to tell the difference between having to kill disable and just send a point, for example, the V of the collarbone is where the trachea is easiest to access and considering that most street fights end up on the ground and if you are trained at all in grappling than you should be able to get on top and gain the advantage if it was a life or death the pressure point I explained above would crush a person's trachea so in short pressure points are effective in a real fight
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a good fighter should be able to tell the difference between having to kill disable and just send a point, for example, the V of the collarbone is where the trachea is easiest to access and considering that most street fights end up on the ground and if you are trained at all in grappling than you should be able to get on top and gain the advantage if it was a life or death the pressure point I explained above would crush a person's trachea so in short pressure points are effective in a real fight
You got it! Another thing is that a weapon, even a kubaton or tactical pen, is better than no weapon. The video that dontbuypotteryfromme is a variant of the 'guns don't make a difference' argument. Sure, a scenario could develop where it doesn't matter.

Thing is, survivalists do no prep for when their preps DON'T matter.

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And pressure points basically wind you up in a situation where you are fighting for the weapon that you cleverly tried to poke the guy with.
See above.

I recall watching an episode of Blue Bloods where Tom Selleck, as PC (Police Commisioner) was told he has an army of 35,000 to help him with his son's problem. Selleck replied, "And I cannot use any of them." We do not have a police force for when they do not matter.

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I had a "Thing" I found in my walmart bag when I got home and was unloading my groceries. The Thing was a piece of hexagon steel about 5-6" long with a taper on one end and two smaller prongs fitted into the side of the steel. I thought it was something that held the plastic WM bags on the dispenser. This was around 20 years ago before WM changed the bag system. I even took it back to WM to try and return it. They said it wasn't theirs.

I found you could hold it in your hand with the point down and it would make a good striking tool. And you inserted your fingers through the two post and it was sort of a brass knuckle sort of thing. I carried it in my truck all that time to use as a weapon. My youngest talked me out of it a year ago and took it home with him.

I finally did see them for sale at the gunshow about 10 years ago so I guess it was built as a weapon. But I have no idea what it was called. But it would have made a good Kubaton.
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that is cool
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Here you go. I found them.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...g=otakukami-20

https://bugoutexpert.com/product/bla...aton-key-ring/

I guess they fall in the Kubaton catagory.
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