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The leftist, progressive 9th Circuit Court of Appeals just ruled against American safety and refused to pay any attention to the US Constitution. Once again, US Judges have decided they can rule by decree and ignore their sworn duty and instead rule in favor of the mobs.

The constant shrieking of the libs has really started grinding me down. I am absolutely sick of this.

I am beginning to think that enough is fast approaching way too much and it's time to react.
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Just keep prepping and stay alert. This nonsense will die out fast once we have a DOJ that enforces the law and isn't beholden to leftist politics.
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Actually, this is just on the stay and not on the Constitutionality of the Executive order. The only thing they ruled is that EOs are subject to judicial review. I know this seems like an inconvenient time, but it's not a bad decision. That's why it was 3-0.
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They are just trying to pull our chain so that we will stoop to their level. Stay the course.
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Just don't be the first one to jump. That's what they want. They're like the bully that keeps doing little things until his victim explodes, and then they stand there crying with a bloody nose saying "I didn't do anything, it's all his fault!"
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I am beginning to think that enough is fast approaching way too much and it's time to react.
The way that the Left is moving and acting, and with summer approaching, I expect to see more violence in more than just the Liberal "Safe Havens" we are seeing now.

Should be an interesting summer.
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The way Trump did this, (which was poorly and foolishly), allowed for this ruling.

They're going to have to go back and sort something out that could potentially pass legal muster. It's correct and right that the judiciary balances the other branches. Though I think they're wrong and foolish here. And as far as the liberals are concerned, they'll be all gleeful about this. But they won't and don't understand something else. They think in a couple years - which just isn't that long - they're going to flip back the Senate or something.

They're not. Not the way they're carrying on. All of this, and rulings like this, will activate Trump's base as much as the election. And some of those seats will flip. To the right. Then some more laws can be passed. Let's see the judicial branch alone try to override the President and Congress. Especially once one of Trump's appointees makes it to the Supreme Court.

Be patient. It's a long game. The only real wildcard is Trump. He is a bit out of control and whacky has hell. If he doesn't start getting more stuff more correct, he might implode before good stuff starts to happen. We'll see.
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Actually, this is just on the stay and not on the Constitutionality of the Executive order. The only thing they ruled is that EOs are subject to judicial review. I know this seems like an inconvenient time, but it's not a bad decision. That's why it was 3-0.
This is a dangerous precedent. The President is per the Constitution supposed to have ultimate power over immigration and who is or is not permitted into the country. Suppose he has intel that a plot is underway from one or more of these countries?? Instead of taking steps to protect the American people, he is mired in the petty leftist courts.. This is an unconstitutional overstep by the Judicial branch.

Trouble is the Supreme Court has 4 leftists and 4 moderates, there is no guarantee they will side with the Constitution either..

What we are seeing is how entrenched the leftists are. It is scary that we might not be able to take back the country. I would vote to halt nearly ALL immigration until we see what is beneficial to us as a country.
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This is a dangerous precedent. The President is per the Constitution supposed to have ultimate power over immigration and who is or is not permitted into the country. .
That's not true. According to the Constitution, it's Congress that has that power. Congress extended certain aspects of that power to the President, but it's Ultimately Congress' power.
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So far I approve what is going on.

Trump set up a ban as he said that he would, and now the courts will check if it is in according to the constitution, which I expected.

Next it will go to the Supreme Court, who will not only give a ruling they will quote the law that applies.

Annoying? Of COURSE it is annoying. However it is how America has always dealt with the law. Personally, I check the news for just a few minutes a day, every day. THEN I TURN THE TV OFF!

It WILL go to the Supreme Court. And it WILL take time. There is no point in getting upset at every turn, as this *WILL* take time. It always has.

This is the process the constitution calls for.

If the Supreme Court does not allow the executive order, then Trump will simply have it re-written and then it will go through the courts again.
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It has never been easy for either party. Just because reps have both houses and the president doesn't mean everything will be easy. Many more disappointing moments are coming. It's all part of the great american politics. I have been here over 40 years and all i see is people fighting over the same thing over and over. Never depended in the goverment and never will. All these with other countries are part of the wake up calls for everyone. I just keep watching and listening.
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I would really like for everyone to either take a hit off a collective bong or take a Valium and calm the **** down. Everyone I see is so tense, reactive, and anxious it seems they are about to blow their top. I have all but stopped watching the news because EVERYTHING is breaking news and cause for everyone to run around like bunch of lunatics. For the love of all that is holy, enough with the hysteria. (That is not directed at anyone on this board specifically, but generally speaking.)
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The EO was silly to begin with. 90 day pause on immigration from 7 nations. It had no effect on the world or on American security. Trump promised to ban immigrants and now he gets to say he did. So, don't be too concerned about the EO.

But the courts are a real concern. With one constitutionalist, two activist liberals, three moderates, and two wild cards in the Supreme Court, I'm always afraid what parts of the constitution or US law might be damaged whenever they rule now.
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The EO was silly to begin with. 90 day pause on immigration from 7 nations. It had no effect on the world or on American security.
How do you know that exactly? Are you receiving the same intelligence briefings that the President gets?

See that's the problem with this court ruling. The President is elected to be the people's representative and the decision-maker. He's the one who examines the situation, is made aware of all the intel, and decides on the best course of action so that the rest of us don't have to.

Whether the liberal judges like it or not, that office is currently held by one Donald J. Trump.

No one except the President and his team are aware of all the facts when it comes to national security. As a previous poster said, what if the President is aware of some plot involving those countries? No one, not even a federal judge, has the right to substitute his own decisions for those of the President when it comes to this specific issue.

The bottom line is that the current laws of our country SPECIFICALLY and EXPLICITLY grant the President (whoever that may be at the time) the ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY to implement ANY restrictions on immigration he feels are necessary, on ANY group of people from ANYWHERE in the world, without needing anyone's approval or oversight on the matter. Period. End of discussion.

Don't like it? Get Congress to change that law. But seeing as how it has been on the books since 1952, with virtually every President since then using it and never being challenged on it, I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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This is a dangerous precedent. The President is per the Constitution supposed to have ultimate power over immigration and who is or is not permitted into the country. Suppose he has intel that a plot is underway from one or more of these countries?? Instead of taking steps to protect the American people, he is mired in the petty leftist courts.. This is an unconstitutional overstep by the Judicial branch.

Trouble is the Supreme Court has 4 leftists and 4 moderates, there is no guarantee they will side with the Constitution either..

What we are seeing is how entrenched the leftists are. It is scary that we might not be able to take back the country. I would vote to halt nearly ALL immigration until we see what is beneficial to us as a country.
Ultimate power, with the Courts unable to intervene? So if Obama had opened the border, refused to deport anyone, invited the entire population of Syria to move here - and only a fool would response "He DID!" when no such things happened - you would have been fine with that?

How liberal of you.
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Isn't this the same panel of judges that has over-turned decisions that weee voted on overwhelmingly by the people of California on public ballots?
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Mark Levin nailed it last night when he said this was a judicial coup.

I can't remember her name but some Dem senator or congresswoman said that her goal was to lead Trump into impeachment. "Lead" being the key word. All of these lawsuits that are going to be pouring in are no doubt traps set to impeach Trump.
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.....This nonsense will die out fast once we have a DOJ that enforces the law and isn't beholden to leftist politics.....

I passionately disagree and I think this is a dangerous mentality. This will not die out fast. The LibTards and the Radical Leftists will only amp-up their efforts, especially when they view this Court effort as a WIN. And yes, they do view this as a win.

If we think this is going away, we are sorely wrong. This is what Trump will face for the next 3 years, 11 months and 1 week. They will fight him ever step of the way, suing and taking him and the Govt to court on every turn. Their strategy is to plug the funnel, distract and derail....and keep Trump off the real work he was elected to do.

Also, I think the Supreme Court is actually more important than the DOJ. The Senate needs to get moving on Gorsuch ASAP. The 9th Court will be rendered powerless when that happens, as will every other District Court in the nation, as long as Trump stays with the constitution.

As for this particular, travel ban, executive order.....I think he should just rewrite it and reissue it. Play the game until Gorsuch is in place.

And why a dangerous mentality????....because if we have a "Sit back and Chill Out" mentality....the "Hanky the Christmas Pooh" Democrats are organizing and growing their base and increasing in voters and putting a second Trump term at serious risk, regardless of how successful he is.

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Isn't this the same panel of judges that has over-turned decisions that weee voted on overwhelmingly by the people of California on public ballots?
The 9th is THE most overturned court by the SCOTUS. Imagine, more than any other court in the country. I don't know about anyone else but, that speaks volumes to me.
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Actually, this is just on the stay and not on the Constitutionality of the Executive order. The only thing they ruled is that EOs are subject to judicial review. I know this seems like an inconvenient time, but it's not a bad decision. That's why it was 3-0.
So why hang up the SCOTUS process waiting for Gorsuch? Should be a slam dunk 8-0 or 9-0 if ruled only on constitutionality.
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