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Old 03-09-2020, 06:38 PM
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Anybody know where or when this mythical party switch started? I know a lot of them always point to Strom Thurmond as an example of the supposed Swap pf the Dixiecrats but when did they actually start telling this tall tell pf the parties swapping places?

Because never in my whole life had I heard this fable until Obama became president and the democrats started stirring the race pot again.
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It doesn't matter. Both parties were taken over by the Progressive Movement in the late 19th-early 20th centuries. The differences between them are cosmetic.
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It doesn't matter. Both parties were taken over by the Progressive Movement in the late 19th-early 20th centuries. The differences between them are cosmetic.
I understand completely where you are coming from with that sentiment really I do ...... But I am trying to chase down this fable and how it got to be
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It doesn't matter. Both parties were taken over by the Progressive Movement in the late 19th-early 20th centuries. The differences between them are cosmetic.


So, what, like 1880 to 1910ish?
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There was NEVER EVER any party switch. Democrats point to the lone Strom Thurmond and a few county dog-catchers (nationally) to try and cover 200 years of slavery, terror, KKK, Jim Crow laws, fighting against civil rights, ghetto building and on and on.

They actually claim they were the real Republicans from 1861-1970-80-90'ish. Racist George Wallace died in the 80's, Robert (Grand Dragon)Byrd retired in the late 1980's

The Democrats did in fact "switch" but they switched tactics not parties.
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Nope No switch here 99 percent of my family have ALWAYS been a REPUBLICAN at least since 1850 or so. And the establishment both D and R are the Disease Masquerading as the Cure! JMHO and S/FI!
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There was NEVER EVER any party switch. Democrats point to the lone Strom Thurmond and a few county dog-catchers (nationally) to try and cover 200 years of slavery, terror, KKK, Jim Crow laws, fighting against civil rights, ghetto building and on and on.

They actually claim they were the real Republicans from 1861-1970-80-90'ish. Racist George Wallace died in the 80's, Robert (Grand Dragon)Byrd retired in the late 1980's

The Democrats did in fact "switch" but they switched tactics not parties.
Right we know this ( well at least most of us on this fourm} but when did this fairy tell get started, I don't remember ever hearing it during the Clinton years when Hillary was calling Blacks super predators, and the riots were raging from democrat race politics
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Anybody know where or when this mythical party switch started? I know a lot of them always point to Strom Thurmond as an example of the supposed Swap pf the Dixiecrats but when did they actually start telling this tall tell pf the parties swapping places?

Because never in my whole life had I heard this fable until Obama became president and the democrats started stirring the race pot again.
Lyndon Baines Johnson started the welfare.
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The "Switch" started during the LBJ administration. Desperate for black votes, they leapfrogged from lynching blacks and keeping them as second class citizens through segregation to the welfare state and keeping them as pets. The Republican stance on race never changed.
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Anybody know where or when this mythical party switch started? I know a lot of them always point to Strom Thurmond as an example of the supposed Swap pf the Dixiecrats but when did they actually start telling this tall tell pf the parties swapping places?

Because never in my whole life had I heard this fable until Obama became president and the democrats started stirring the race pot again.

The fable likely started the very day (or thereabouts) you first heard it. All liberals have to do these days is come up with an inane idea; pass it on to the Marxist Media; repeat it loudly and often; and folks will start to mimic what they hear and repeat it like parrots.



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Lyndon Baines Johnson started the welfare.

Actually ... I would attribute much of the current Welfare State to F.D.R. But the cancer was certainly spread by other Marxist Democrats like L.B.J. and others.
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I don't know, but Like my dad would grab a switch and use it on me I'd like to grab a switch and use it on some democrats.
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The fable likely started the very day (or thereabouts) you first heard it. All liberals have to do these days is come up with an inane idea; pass it on to the Marxist Media; repeat it loudly and often; and folks will start to mimic what they hear and repeat it like parrots.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie
Thats an interesting concept and sounds par the course
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https://www.prageru.com/video/why-di...me-republican/
Hear it from a Black woman who KNOWS the truth
https://www.prageru.com/video/the-in...ublican-party/
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Democrats went from small government supporters to big government supporters when they saw how well government worked in taking away their slaves.

They have been harboring a grudge ever since and have been looking to used the same political powers to take away things we like, such as soda straws, fire arms, cheap gas, and freedom.

It's a decades long Tit-for-tat that is only being played by the petty former slave holding Democrats.
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Both owned by Wall Street.
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The parties-switched lie is vague enough to be difficult to pin down, but no matter what exactly is meant by it, any possible meaning is a lie. There is no time that Democrats became Republicans and Republicans became Democrats, other than a few individuals here and there.

The notorious RINO Arlen Specter had long been a senate Republican, but when there was just the right balance in the Senate, he switched parties, to give control of the Senate to the party he had been supporting all along, the Democrats. Does his switch mean that the parties switched places again?

If what is meant by this lie is that black people switched parties in the 70s, because the Democrats were suddenly not racist and the Republicans suddenly were racists, that is easily proven to be a lie; Dinesh D'Sousa explains that lie here:

The fact is, Democrats have always been racist and they still are; what switched is which race they are racist against. When hating white people got them more votes they switched, because the Democrats are all about power.

Now they use race hatred to support their immigration policies, that bring in a million third world poor a year through legal immigration, that vote overwhelmingly liberal generation after generation; these Marxist voters being brought in are not white, therefore anyone who opposes this strategy of political war is said to be a thought criminal in the form of a white nationalist; all right-thinking people are supposed to think that reducing the relative numbers of white demons is a good thing, and to oppose it is heresy against the official state religion.

The liberal cult has been racist all along and it is as racist today as it has ever been, demonizing the white man like the National Socialists demonized the Jew.
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President Trump is the first break from the status quo that has been going on since I was born.
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Right we know this ( well at least most of us on this fourm} but when did this fairy tell get started, I don't remember ever hearing it during the Clinton years when Hillary was calling Blacks super predators, and the riots were raging from democrat race politics
When?

They keep moving the goal post. Some claim the big switch happened in the 1940's.....until you bring up Japanese internment camps, forced segregation, voting records and suddenly the BIG-SWITCHED really happened in the 1950's.

Until you bring up civil-rights and leading Democrats who fought against it in the 1950's.

Then they claim the 1960's and 70's. Yep, that's when the Big-Switch happened until you bring up George Wallace, quotes from LBJ and Robert Byrd, Al Gore Jr. actually tried to say his daddy voted for civil rights until he got caught lying, it was false.

As recently as 2010 the Senate president pro tempore was former Ku Klux Klan exalted cyclops (D) Sen. Robert Byrd.

IMO democrats are not only re-writing history but changing their tactics to keep blacks broke and dependent much like their former slaves.

Democrats have designed and fully run:

-Welfare that removes men from black families
-Built unionized, dysfunctional, over funded, broken public school systems
-Use blacks to burn cities, terrorize communities and call it needed
-Convince people that police are bad and should be hated

For 200 years the Democrats have found themselves on the wrong side of history. Even now their candidates are proposing insane 100 Trillion dollar programs, healthcare is a RIGHT rather than a commodity to be purchased. Free college and baskets full of pure insanity.

Essentially they only care about power at any cost. They will exploit any people from their slaves in 1850 or the new slaves today to do their bidding.

Democrats GREATEST nightmare is a well educated, self-sufficient, hard working, family raising, house owning, private sector working, tax paying Black man.
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The modern Republican Party has it's roots in the Catskill Mountains of New York.

1838 marked first time in this Country, non-land owning men, women and Blacks where allowed to vote for their political future was at an Anti-Rent War gathering of 5,000 farmer/tenants of Torrie/Democrat land barons.

1845 a sheriff was shot and killed at an Anti-Rent War farmers property sale resulting in families fleeing persecution to many places including Wisconsin.

1854 two Anti-Rent War participants and an Abolitionist Democrat walked into a Church at Ripon Wisconsin and formed the Republican Party.

The original Political Plank of the Republican Party was simply and solely "free the Blacks from Democrat slavery", which Republican President Abe Lincoln did after winning the Presidential election in 1860.

100 years later in 1964, New York Democrat Daniel Patrick Moynihan "put them all back in chains" by helping to write the Civil Rights Bill effectively removing the Black man from the Black family.

Democrat President Lyndon Baines Johnson said of Blacks when signing the 1964 Civil Rights Bill "we'll have them ******s voting Democrat for the next 200 years".
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