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Hello Tax Man,

Thanks for your reply.

I'm really just asking as a learning thing. Its been a while since I've been a "true blue" Ford guy. Many years.

I am asking as a couple years back someone made a similar comment to me, really just off the wall. If I recall correctly, I want to say that his comments were more than just brackets, but other front end components, like the water pump, etc.

But to get back on thread, yes, the 460 engine is a great engine, but it will never be a gas milage king.


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Sure! It's not a vast majority or anything like that. Maybe I made it sound like that? Anyhow, things like several of the brackets will interchange and distributors will interchange. If you want to call a "Bracket," a part.

Damn...Ok, so not much swaps, really. My excuse is that I was tired and had been typing a lot...
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My "yahoo foo" is terrible tonight.

The nearest I can tell, the first ranger was either 1967 or 1968, but definitely by 1968.

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"Ranger," was a trim and option package back then. While it could vary, it typically included the larger radiator, 460, hood ornament, automatic transmission, an external tranny cooler and some badges. Depending on what the dealer and purchaser worked out, it could have the tool boxes in the side of the bed. Those were typically "Camper Special," items, though.
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Hello Tax Man,

Thanks for your reply.

I'm really just asking as a learning thing. Its been a while since I've been a "true blue" Ford guy. Many years.

I am asking as a couple years back someone made a similar comment to me, really just off the wall. If I recall correctly, I want to say that his comments were more than just brackets, but other front end components, like the water pump, etc.

But to get back on thread, yes, the 460 engine is a great engine, but it will never be a gas milage king.
I have heard the water pumps interchange, but I havent seen it happen with my own eyes, so I cant confirm.

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I had a 48 Dodge pickup in Az., simple and tough as nails. Sad that I left her there.

Hope she is well. (and definitely EMP proof!)
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I hate to keep dragging this thread out, but I just remembered that one of the GREAT things you can do to these engines (or even the 351c, 351m or 400) is to swap the starter to a more modern "PMGR," (or Permanent Magnet, Gear Reduction) units from a newer, fuel injected 460. A safe bet is to ask for the starter from a '94 F-350 with a 460 in it.

These units are about 50lbs lighter than the stock units, have more torque and pull fewer amps on start up. They require only minor modifications to the stock wiring. They even sound more modern when they spin...
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I hate to keep dragging this thread out, but I just remembered that one of the GREAT things you can do to these engines (or even the 351c, 351m or 400) is to swap the starter to a more modern "PMGR," (or Permanent Magnet, Gear Reduction) units from a newer, fuel injected 460. A safe bet is to ask for the starter from a '94 F-350 with a 460 in it.

These units are about 50lbs lighter than the stock units, have more torque and pull fewer amps on start up. They require only minor modifications to the stock wiring. They even sound more modern when they spin...
How would an EMP affect it?

Again, thanks for all the info. If/when I get this truck or another, it's going to be a good learning experience.
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No clue about any EMP.

It has fewer circuits in it, not needing a field coil and all, though.
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78? That's not old. I drove an older double clutch type that was for sale and helped a buddy unload a panel truck shell that was worth quite a bit more as well as being considerably older.
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78? That's not old. I drove an older double clutch type that was for sale and helped a buddy unload a panel truck shell that was worth quite a bit more.
Do you have anything to add to this discussion or are you just putting in your 2 cents worth on something completely unrelated to the main subject?
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Personally, if you want 4wd, I'd hold out for 4wd. Its a lot of work to convert a 67-79 Ford 2wd to 4wd...not just a matter of slapping a solid axle underneath it. 2wd engine crossmember interferes with the 4wd steering box.

Like tax man said, Duraspark II ignition system is one of the best, most reliable out there. Problems occur when using cheap Chinese replacement ignition modules....go with a NAPA Echlin replacement and always carry a spare. About the only thing that goes wrong with the dizzy is the pick up coil....which can be replaced very easily.

I-beam suspension is pretty reliable and nice riding. Rebuild it once when you buy and you'll be set for at least a decade. Kingpins, axle pivot bushings, and radius arm bushings...done. Kingpins aren't fun, but are easily motivated with an 8 lb sledge.


I'm the proud owner of a 69 F100 and a 77 F100. There isn't much on it that you cannot rebuild with hand tools in your garage....including the transmission and transfer case (if applicable). C4 requires no specials tools to rebuild and the C6 requires one.
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converted the ignition system on my 1983 ford ranger, 2.8 v6, 4x4 to duraspark. does great. also chucked all the emissions junk as well. really clean under the hood now.
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Do you have anything to add to this discussion or are you just putting in your 2 cents worth on something completely unrelated to the main subject?
I'm like you with no clue.
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My wife & I both have Ford trucks, hers is a F-250 2 WD Supercab with Auto trans and 460 engine. Mine is a F-350 4WD dually with 460 engine & 4 speed. both are powerful trucks, and capable of hauling and or towing heavy loads. The 460 is indeed a gas hog, the trucks get about 10 mpg, and loaded or empty does not seem to matter much!
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follow up from my own posting.

I have a coworker with an early Ranger. Said coworker came up with a wikipedia link indicating that 1965 was the first year for the Ranger.

Hope that is of some value for anyone on this thread still interested.



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My "yahoo foo" is terrible tonight.

The nearest I can tell, the first ranger was either 1967 or 1968, but definitely by 1968.
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I have a 1978 Chevrolet Silverado as a bug out vehicle...It will do just fine for everything I need to carry.
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If you do buy it get 2 extra coils.

I had an F350 like that and the coils went bad regularly. You can tell when it gets harder and harder to start. Otherwise they are good running trucks and cheap to fix.
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No 4x4=useless
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If you do buy it get 2 extra coils.

I had an F350 like that and the coils went bad regularly. You can tell when it gets harder and harder to start. Otherwise they are good running trucks and cheap to fix.
Who gets a gas F350? Those V10s are a peice
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Hey, OP, did you ever buy this thing? How'd it work out?
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