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Old 03-31-2020, 10:30 PM
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I got back from the range today and it was a very sad day. I had to witness all the big guns putting so much leads down range at just about everything except the targets. My buddy and I were the outcasts with our .22 lr guns making tiny but consistent hits to 25 yards with handguns and 150 yards with rifles using iron sights.

While I am happy there are more and new shooters lately, it seems very wasteful to go for big calibers without establishing the basic marksmanship. So much good .308 and .45 ACP wasted today. Everyone would be much happier if they use my .22 guns and just give me those big bad calibers to take back to HQ.

For the new and rusty shooters, you need to get acquainted with the king of all cartridges and understand why great shooters have consistently make hits to 200-300 yards with .22 lr. Those big calibers only gonna to hurt your feelings snd wallets.
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(Those big calibers only gonna to hurt your feelings and wallets.)
true quote of the day redneck have a 300 wm and 30-06 both sub moa but don't shoot them as much as my smaller calibers.
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If cost was a MAJOR consideration and you only needed one caliber for self defense, hunting, etc, its very hard to beat the x39. Tried and trued for half a century and cheaper than most other ammo (except 22lr), if you can find it (COVID-19 is making it hard to find most anything) if used within its limitation.

Alternatively, the 12-Gauge also gets the nod, if you were looking at it from a firearm perspective and not a Pistol/Rifle Cartridge perspective. Most deer are shot within 75-yards, so a slug would have no problem (although some might have a hard time with its recoil). And for self-defense, very hard to beat.

Love the 22lr though, great round for plinking, learning, hunting small game and vermin and cheap to shoot. 22lr has lots of good use...but if I wanted something dead, I don't really want to have to shoot it twice or track it forever.

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Learn to reload with cast bullets. I can still load full tilt 44 Mag ammo for less than 2 cents a round (I have older powder and primers plus I make the bullets) the last 22RF I bought were a nickel each for CCI's.
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ONE OF the reasons I stopped shooting as much .308 and .340Wby was NOT cost..

It was BOREDOM..
Once you have a system set up that regularly shoots tighter than 1/2" at 100 and closer to caliber size groups... Where is the challenge in that?

At 1000yds, I know with the .340 I can consistently hit inside of an 8" circle on an average day. On a GREAT day I might get under 6".. but that is at 1000yds. The only real variable is weather and a little luck.
Other than the mechanics of settling in behind the scope and setting up, the rest is a given. At 100yds, all you do is slightly move the original hole on the paper. Why bother?

After 60+ years of active shooting, if I don't have the mechanics down by now I never will.
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(Those big calibers only gonna to hurt your feelings and wallets.)
true quote of the day redneck have a 300 wm and 30-06 both sub moa but don't shoot them as much as my smaller calibers.
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But your skills are probably honed and earned through hard work, dedication, and even some natural talent. Just look at your calibers, tacticool ninjas donít even know what 300 WinMag is and most will only want .308, some Blackout/Creedmore/Grendel, Glock 40 (or is it back Glock 9 now). I know my skills had diminished greatly while being a family man so I elect to go small hits in lieu of big misses.

By the way, my favorite rounds are 8mm Mauser, 30-06, .270, and x39. All had proven to be effective.
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Why would caliber size matter when making the initial shot. I would rather have a 50cal hole than a 22 cal hole. Follow up shots can be harder with larger calibers but if you don’t need it then the point is moot. Now if you are trying to practice your technique then by all means, perfect it on a small cheap caliber.
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I have a savage 110 30-06 that makes women cry and grown men say bad words to squeeze the trigger, recoil is more brutal than my .300 but it sure is a sweetheart to carry hunting. I always told the grandsons (aim small miss small) seems to have worked all four are all good shooters imagine my ammo bill . love the .30's haven't got into x39 never really had a need for it, the 94 winny always pulled good duty.
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My little cousin came over with gradfather while I was sighting in a couple of guns in January. He made a couple jabs at me about how he could out shoot me. Needless to say he was mistaken, lol. He asked how I got to where I could shoot a rifle the way I can. My grandpa piped up and told him, "A couple of bricks of .22 bullets month for about 10 years."

And that is about as true of a statement as it can get. I learned more shooting thousands of rounds of 22 bullets at anything I thought I could hit than I ever have shooting "big guns". Some of my favorites were shooting the stems off of pears for my grandma to make pear pies, and setting up some strings with weights on them to recreate the "enemy at the gates" sniper shot. Good times.
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I'm not hitting anything at 2-300 yards with a 22. Hell, I'm aiming 6 inches over at 150 yards to hit a clay pigeon.
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200 yd 22 shoots are all the rage at my local range.
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Keep burning it up! As long as I can keep your brass.
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Keep burning it up! As long as I can keep your brass.
But it is worth it when they do those 1000-yard shots into thin air. 300 WinMag for the win. J/k
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I burn 1000 22lr a week between my wife, child and myself.
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I burn 1000 22lr a week between my wife, child and myself.
Which rifles and handguns do you find most reliable and not picky on ammo? I would love to keep a .22 lr in the truck but the thought of rimjam makes me nervous even though I never had a malfunctioning any .22lr if I clean them after every outing.
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Which rifles and handguns do you find most reliable and not picky on ammo? I would love to keep a .22 lr in the truck but the thought of rimjam makes me nervous even though I never had a malfunctioning any .22lr if I clean them after every outing.
I have a Xring and SW 617 10shot
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Heck, I thought this thread was going to be about the .600 Nitro Express.
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I got back from the range today and it was a very sad day. I had to witness all the big guns putting so much leads down range at just about everything except the targets. My buddy and I were the outcasts with our .22 lr guns making tiny but consistent hits to 25 yards with handguns and 150 yards with rifles using iron sights.
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I got back from the range today and it was a very sad day. I had to witness all the big guns putting so much leads down range at just about everything except the targets. My buddy and I were the outcasts with our .22 lr guns making tiny but consistent hits to 25 yards with handguns and 150 yards with rifles using iron sights.

While I am happy there are more and new shooters lately, it seems very wasteful to go for big calibers without establishing the basic marksmanship. So much good .308 and .45 ACP wasted today. Everyone would be much happier if they use my .22 guns and just give me those big bad calibers to take back to HQ.

For the new and rusty shooters, you need to get acquainted with the king of all cartridges and understand why great shooters have consistently make hits to 200-300 yards with .22 lr. Those big calibers only gonna to hurt your feelings snd wallets.
More like the Pawn of all Cartridges.
You might want to try shooting a reactive target at 200-300 yds with your 22LR. A gallon milk jug filled with water will do.
Not only is it hard to adjust for bullet drop at long range, the bullet does not have any energy left.
Not trying to defend their poor marksmanship, but your rimfire is not worth a damn at 300 yds.
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More like the Pawn of all Cartridges.
You might want to try shooting a reactive target at 200-300 yds with your 22LR. A gallon milk jug filled with water will do.
Not only is it hard to adjust for bullet drop at long range, the bullet does not have any energy left.
Not trying to defend their poor marksmanship, but your rimfire is not worth a damn at 300 yds.
Out of a 4.5in barrel itís decently accurate at 100 yards. Out of a 16in at 200 itís very accurate for man size targets. Itís doable at 300 but only with known dope and a scope the will give you enough elevation. https://youtu.be/RLEGHaExQHM
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