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I sm 64 years old. And, there have been huge "calves" for my entire life.
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"The calved block covers 1,636 sq km in area - a little smaller than Scotland's Isle of Skye - and is called D28."

The perimeter is about 143 km
1636 sq. km = 631.67 sq. miles.

Now calculate the area (you can approximate if you want to use the longest distance as the base and the average of the other two sides to call it an isosceles triangle) of the triangle from "New York City to Charlotte, NC, to Indianapolis and back to New York City"
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Duh'O. Triberrious is in for a reality check!

https://www.breitbart.com/environmen...r-in-30-years/

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"The calved block covers 1,636 sq km in area - a little smaller than Scotland's Isle of Skye - and is called D28."

The perimeter is about 143 km
Ok...this is too sad. Here’s a hint.

The distance from NYC to Charlotte is over 600 miles.

And Charlotte to Indy is over 580 miles.

And Indy to NYC is about 710 miles.

Come on...you can do it...but just in case you missed 6th grade math...the area of a triangle is half the base times the height.



And when you convert it...if you remember that part....a mile is about 1.6 Klicks.
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1636 sq. km = 631.67 sq. miles.

Now calculate the area (you can approximate if you want to use the longest distance as the base and the average of the other two sides to call it an isosceles triangle) of the triangle from "New York City to Charlotte, NC, to Indianapolis and back to New York City"
His numbers were correct but his example journey was not.
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Duh'O. Triberrious is in for a reality check!

https://www.breitbart.com/environmen...r-in-30-years/
Ah, Breitbart.

One cold Winter won't buck the trend - 2019 will be globally one of the 5 hottest years.
My prediction for 2020 is that also will be one of the 5 hottest years. That's what happens
now.

Back in 1989, the C02 levels were about 350 ppm, it is now 17.5% higher than that.
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His numbers were correct but his example journey was not.
Then his post was a lie. He made the event out to be much, much larger than it was.

So his numbers were not correct.
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Another example of how dim-bulb types gobble up the AGW hoax propaganda and pompously regurgitate it everywhere without a moment's critical thinking.
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That's why kids are not taught real science in school.
Less knowledge and more emotion.
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That's why kids are not taught real science in school.
Less knowledge and more emotion.
Makes them more obedient sheeple.
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That's why kids are not taught real science in school.
Less knowledge and more emotion.
Modern science was built on a few basic principles. It concerns me greatly that those principles are, apparently, no longer taught.

I am also concerned that math is no longer required in some states for high school students. I made darned sure that my kids learned these things
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There was a story circulating 20 years ago of an experiment done with handheld calculators. A college class was given a test, and the experimenter handed out calculators which had been jimmied to give wildly wrong answers. Only one kid came up to the front saying "there's something wrong with this thing.."
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His numbers were correct but his example journey was not.
So....you finally got the point.

See, that’s the problem with the ENTIRE Global Warming/AGW/Climate Change BS.

All this data that makes math sense...if you ignore the fact that the data isn’t really describing reality, and simply doesn’t correspond to much of the data on the ground, that they ignore.

You keep playing with the numbers, but you’re missing the reality.
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And it had absolutely no effect on....anything, really.
You are clueless. Yes big giant chunks of antarctica breaking off and melting do have an effect. You have no perspective of environmental effect. Yes adding a bunch of cold frozen water will have an effect on the environment. As incidences of this increase it accelerates global changes in climate cycles, ocean water movements, speciation, food resources, and weather systems.

The loss of icemass results in acceleration of disintigration of ice shelves and glacier losses into the ocean, more rapid loss of melt waters in melt water lakes in glaciers, and faster movement of glaciers into the ocean

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4.6 mm of sea rise over the study period of 25 years
Again this isn't nothing, a 1/4 inch of global ocean level rise from one local area is actually a pretty big deal. You are showing yourself as not having a clue of how 1/4 inch of global ocean rise can effect global climate.

You are completely clueless. I am sure if one room of your house catches fire it is no big deal cause you have other rooms.
Sea level rise over the past 20,000 years has only averaged 1/4 of an inch from all sources, and this small area in the past 25 years has been equiv to 1/4 of an inch.(And that was with the retreat of the major glaciers that covered north america and europe...) In effect this one area you mentioned was equivolent to the average annual melt for the entire planet.

It is unprecedented melt for the past 2000 years. Christians may indentify that to the time when Jesus was raising the dead.

Please educate yourself and stop posting nonsense
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...report/598765/

There is a 20 year lag so the melt today is from conditions 20 years ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...a-year-by-2050


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Half the world’s megacities, and almost 2 billion people, live on coasts. Even if heating is restricted to just 2C
And we are on track for that by 2035... it is a question of whether we will hit Mars or 2c increase first.

This isn't a question of doing anything it is more a factor of recognizing it is going to happen regardless of anything we do and planning appropriately.

It falls in line with US loss of global economy due to loss of its ports and chaos caused by environmental devestation matched with state organized programs by China. IT was contrast today when I was talking with a mainlander, and when asked how long will it take for the PLA to be here he said 19 years. Last time I quized a mainlander about how long until the Chinese economy overtook the US, he said 15 years, but it took less time than that. His estimate on Chinese global hegemony was about the same as when climate chaos will be devestating the developed world due to failure of their industries, and natural resources being destroyed with many 10's of billions of dollars of losses.

A 7 foot sea level rise is a big deal. It adds up its not just here this year, it adds up every year its only going one way, it is a like a clock, it doesn't go backwards.


65 foot rise

https://www.newsweek.com/sea-level-r...change-1462840

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With today's emissions levels, that remaining CO2 budget [1.5 degrees Celsius] will be entirely gone in less than eight-and-a-half years.
On track to 4.3 c warming by end of century. (260 feet higher by the end of the century)

http://ossfoundation.us/projects/env.../natural-cycle
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Oh good. There’s WA, proving my point....

Lots of big scary numbers and dire predictions......but no reality.
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You are clueless. Yes big giant chunks of antarctica breaking off and melting do have an effect. You have no perspective of environmental effect. Yes adding a bunch of cold frozen water will have an effect on the environment. As incidences of this increase it accelerates global changes in climate cycles, ocean water movements, speciation, food resources, and weather systems.

The loss of icemass results in acceleration of disintigration of ice shelves and glacier losses into the ocean, more rapid loss of melt waters in melt water lakes in glaciers, and faster movement of glaciers into the ocean

Again this isn't nothing, a 1/4 inch of global ocean level rise from one local area is actually a pretty big deal. You are showing yourself as not having a clue of how 1/4 inch of global ocean rise can effect global climate.

You are completely clueless. I am sure if one room of your house catches fire it is no big deal cause you have other rooms.
Sea level rise over the past 20,000 years has only averaged 1/4 of an inch from all sources, and this small area in the past 25 years has been equiv to 1/4 of an inch.(And that was with the retreat of the major glaciers that covered north america and europe...) In effect this one area you mentioned was equivolent to the average annual melt for the entire planet.

It is unprecedented melt for the past 2000 years. Christians may indentify that to the time when Jesus was raising the dead.

Please educate yourself and stop posting nonsense
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...report/598765/

There is a 20 year lag so the melt today is from conditions 20 years ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...a-year-by-2050

And we are on track for that by 2035... it is a question of whether we will hit Mars or 2c increase first.

This isn't a question of doing anything it is more a factor of recognizing it is going to happen regardless of anything we do and planning appropriately.

It falls in line with US loss of global economy due to loss of its ports and chaos caused by environmental devestation matched with state organized programs by China. IT was contrast today when I was talking with a mainlander, and when asked how long will it take for the PLA to be here he said 19 years. Last time I quized a mainlander about how long until the Chinese economy overtook the US, he said 15 years, but it took less time than that. His estimate on Chinese global hegemony was about the same as when climate chaos will be devestating the developed world due to failure of their industries, and natural resources being destroyed with many 10's of billions of dollars of losses.

A 7 foot sea level rise is a big deal. It adds up its not just here this year, it adds up every year its only going one way, it is a like a clock, it doesn't go backwards.

65 foot rise

https://www.newsweek.com/sea-level-r...change-1462840

On track to 4.3 c warming by end of century. (260 feet higher by the end of the century)

http://ossfoundation.us/projects/env.../natural-cycle
First root cause, there is no evidence man causes or can prevent global temperature changes. No we are not on track for a 4.3°C increase in the next 100 years.

But let's say we are. One growing seasons will increase all over the globe. Two because of the increase in temperatures sea levels would not increase much if any because of evaporation. Three because of that increased evaporation rains would increase. Four increased global rains would increase the fresh water available globally. Five all this will improve the lives of global populations.

You better pray global temperatures continue to increase because man is not and cannot cause this good thing to happen.
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You are clueless. Yes big giant chunks of antarctica breaking off and melting do have an effect. You have no perspective of environmental effect. Yes adding a bunch of cold frozen water will have an effect on the environment. As incidences of this increase it accelerates global changes in climate cycles, ocean water movements, speciation, food resources, and weather systems.

The loss of icemass results in acceleration of disintigration of ice shelves and glacier losses into the ocean, more rapid loss of melt waters in melt water lakes in glaciers, and faster movement of glaciers into the ocean

Again this isn't nothing, a 1/4 inch of global ocean level rise from one local area is actually a pretty big deal. You are showing yourself as not having a clue of how 1/4 inch of global ocean rise can effect global climate.

You are completely clueless. I am sure if one room of your house catches fire it is no big deal cause you have other rooms.
Sea level rise over the past 20,000 years has only averaged 1/4 of an inch from all sources, and this small area in the past 25 years has been equiv to 1/4 of an inch.(And that was with the retreat of the major glaciers that covered north america and europe...) In effect this one area you mentioned was equivolent to the average annual melt for the entire planet.

It is unprecedented melt for the past 2000 years. Christians may indentify that to the time when Jesus was raising the dead.

Please educate yourself and stop posting nonsense
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...report/598765/

There is a 20 year lag so the melt today is from conditions 20 years ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...a-year-by-2050




And we are on track for that by 2035... it is a question of whether we will hit Mars or 2c increase first.

This isn't a question of doing anything it is more a factor of recognizing it is going to happen regardless of anything we do and planning appropriately.

It falls in line with US loss of global economy due to loss of its ports and chaos caused by environmental devestation matched with state organized programs by China. IT was contrast today when I was talking with a mainlander, and when asked how long will it take for the PLA to be here he said 19 years. Last time I quized a mainlander about how long until the Chinese economy overtook the US, he said 15 years, but it took less time than that. His estimate on Chinese global hegemony was about the same as when climate chaos will be devestating the developed world due to failure of their industries, and natural resources being destroyed with many 10's of billions of dollars of losses.

A 7 foot sea level rise is a big deal. It adds up its not just here this year, it adds up every year its only going one way, it is a like a clock, it doesn't go backwards.


65 foot rise

https://www.newsweek.com/sea-level-r...change-1462840



On track to 4.3 c warming by end of century. (260 feet higher by the end of the century)

http://ossfoundation.us/projects/env.../natural-cycle
Here is what the climate doom-and-gloomers were saying just 40 years ago.

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William (the energizer bunny) Ashley seems more and more like he's desperate to convince himself that he hasn't been laughably wrong all this time.
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William (the energizer bunny) Ashley seems more and more like he's desperate to convince himself that he hasn't been laughably wrong all this time.
Admitting it is the hardest part of being wrong.
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500 scientist on record attesting to the fact that there is no climate emergency.

https://clintel.nl/wp-content/upload...versieNWA4.pdf


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There is no climate emergency

A global network of 500 scientists and professionals has prepared this urgent message. Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific. Scientists should openly address the uncertainties and exaggera-tions in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should dispassion-ately count the real benefits as well as the imagined costs of adaptation to global warming, and the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of mitigation
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