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I am in need of a decent suture kit. I'm not well trained, so I don't need a top tier kit. Something inexpensive, relatively, but still quality would be best. I have noticed Amazon offering a number of "training" kits complete with needles and sutures, as well as fake skin. Is there any reason these training kits would not be useable in a real world situation?
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I doubt the training kits are using true, medical grade, sterile sutures. They're expensive. Those kits most likely contain either thread of some kind, or expired, or non sterile sutures. There are different types of sutures for different applications. You can get a ton of info on suturing online and probably from youtube as well. Then put your own training kit together and order your own sutures. They can be found online as well.
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Check medical sources for steri strips, staples, buterfly bandages and other items, even super glue. We were taught to suture in college. I picked up a large quanity on ebay of mixed kits. I use them on my animals when necessary.
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The training kits used expired threads, not that such is an issue of concern, and are limited in the application by offering only two-three very common threads. The kit here:

https://www.amazon.com/Suture-Practi...s%2C349&sr=8-3

has 2-0, 3-0 and 4-0 sizes included. 5-0 is more common than any other assuming you aren't suturing over the knee or the shoulder area. The higher the number the smaller the thread diameter, BTW.

The instruments are also low-end Pakistani which are fit for practice use. Reading the reviews - those not obviously by payed shills as Amazon is plagued by any more - you also see the needle drivers are less than decent, they offer toothed Adson forceps only and no plain tip models. There is more than merely driving a needle in one side and out the other and tying it.

I recently sold several practice kits that were basic - plastic baggy, etc. rather than a case - and made sure to include various sutures ranging from common 5-0 polyethylene to 0 cotton, to 3-0 Vicryl (absorbing, internal use), double needles, empty thread-your-own needles in two sizes, and more. There were also Steri-Strips and Tincture of Benzoin swabs for use with same, and syringes, needles and filled ampules to practice drawing up and administering locals.

Suturing is a process. To properly learn you ought to glove up, prep the site, administer a local (water works just as well for practice), and approximate, trim, etc. Practice on suture pads, chicken breasts, pigs feet and tenderized steak. Different tissue types call for different skills, thread sizes and materials and take practice.

BTW, I am not offering such kits - I sold what I had and do not sell on this forum in any case. Just offering some food for thought.

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There are pig dog kits that have a stapler. I mean it should work and be easy to use.

http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBa...=0&cspheader=1

I can't imagine it would be very pleasant.
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For home or clinic use consider laceration trays, they're sterile, cheap, and intended for single procedure use. Many types available, this one https://www.shopmedvet.com/product/66820 includes syringe and needles for the anesthetic. The trays wouldn't hold up well bouncing around in a FAK, better for home use or to take with the injured if medical care is available but medical supplies are scarce.

1% lidocaine available without license or prescription here https://www.mountainside-medical.com...aine-50ml-vial

Shop around for the rest; assorted sutures, separate syringe for irrigation, antiseptic.
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Mountainside medical is a great source for Lidocaine. Clearly the practice kits are nt optimal. I'm looking at the mymedic.com suture kit. It's $75 but looks well made. Does anyone have a recommended kit?
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Here is a kit with good reviews and a wide variety of suture types, including absorbable.

https://www.amazon.com/Students-Surg...SSGACG3AT5WBFK
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There are pig dog kits that have a stapler. I mean it should work and be easy to use.

http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBa...=0&cspheader=1

I can't imagine it would be very pleasant.

Iíve been stitched up without a local and it is not something Iíd like to experience again.
I think staples (if applicable ) would be preferable and I think a lot easier if you had to do yourself.

I canít remember where I learned it but duct tape folded over a heavy cord (shoelace) and applied to either side of the cut can then be stitched together to close a wound without having to pierce the skin.
I guess itíd work better than duct taping the wound shut.
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There are pig dog kits that have a stapler. I mean it should work and be easy to use.

http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBa...=0&cspheader=1

I can't imagine it would be very pleasant.

I’ve been stitched up without a local and it is not something I’d like to experience again.
I think staples (if applicable ) would be preferable and I think a lot easier if you had to do yourself.

I can’t remember where I learned it but duct tape folded over a heavy cord (shoelace) and applied to either side of the cut can then be stitched together to close a wound without having to pierce the skin.
I guess it’d work better than duct taping the wound shut.
Which is the point of it for pig dogs I assume. As they would be a bugger to manually stitch up in the bush.


Anyway a video someone using it.


https://youtu.be/uzpswG7UXME
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Which is the point of it for pig dogs I assume. As they would be a bugger to manually stitch up in the bush.
Oh, you mean to stitch up dogs used for hunting wild pigs in case they are gored.

took me a minute to figure out what a pig dog was.
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Coon dogs are good too. The good ones want to fight when mr. Furry runs the tree tops and climbs down to run some more...Sharp teeth and claws....
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Just ran across this guy, haven't even seen the whole video yet but he seems good.
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I picked up a mil surplus in excellent condition. It will do. However, those circle catfish hooks might work with a few mods.
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In a field environment you don't want to suture, but use butterfly strips and tincture of benzoin to ensure adhesive sticks. Irrigate, pack with betadyne and sugar and then redress daily, leaving wound open enough to drain. Otherwise you are creating an environment to encourage infection and making big trouble for yourself.
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Just ran across this guy, haven't even seen the whole video yet but he seems good.

I think that might be where I saw it, I couldnít remember in my post above but I think you nailed it.
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