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Old 05-24-2020, 03:53 PM
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To each his own view, the "word" of the University of Arizona Medical was enough for me. Further opinions:

"... Results: The Sambucol preparations increased the production of five cytokines (1.3-6.2 fold) compared to the control. Protec induced only a moderate production of IL-8 (1.6 fold) and IL-10 (2.3 fold) while Chizukit N caused only a moderate increase in IL-10 production (1.4 fold). Both Protec and Chizukit N caused moderate decreases in IL-1 beta, TNF alpha and IL-6 production. Lipopolysaccharide, a known activator of monocytes, induced the highest levels of cytokine production (3.6-10.7 fold)... "


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12455180/
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Elderberry counter-indicated?
Yes and No I think. Indicated for prevention maybe, but contraindicated during treatment.

Elderberry has at least two mechanisms of antiviral action, its lectins can interfere with the ability of some viruses (including maybe coronaviruses) to bind to and replicate in host cells, and secondly it also stimulates a healthy immune system to produce cytokines. Both may help initially to prevent infection from occurring, but failing that then one goal of COVID-19 treatment (in severe cases) is to inhibit cytokine production, not promote it.

It's already well established science that elderberry extracts stimulate cytokine production as you said, and if interested see this study on how elderberry may interfere in the coronavirus viral replication cycle.
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