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Old 05-11-2020, 05:36 PM
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I remember you posting about that! I too was very surprised when caught the culprits, had no idea they would eat watermelons.
As far as the groundhog, coyote or dog is the most likely.
Raccoon's will steal em also............

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It was me. I took the groundhog. Tough ol' boy but low and slow in the crock pot all day and the stew turned out pretty good.
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It was me. I took the groundhog. Tough ol' boy but low and slow in the crock pot all day and the stew turned out pretty good.
At the rate I am catching these things, I wish I had a good recipe, could have put 20 pounds of meat in the freezer by now. Like I don't have anything else to do than butcher groundhogs... Freezer is full anyway.

Caught another big-un last night. Have a buddy bringing over a game cam, should know what's going on in a day or two.
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They eat the same stuff as rabits, cook them like rabbits.
skin the chuck,
soak it in salt water overnight.
Quarter it, and Fry it until carmelized browned in garlic butter/olive oil mix.
Put everything (garlic butter and oil) into in a crock pot with parsnips, onions potatoes and carrots, Salt and pepper.
Fill it to 3/4 with 1 can of beef or chicken broth and the rest cold water.
cook on low 8 hrs
Smoke them
rub with beef rub, set over night in a tub in the refrigerator
use Mesqite chips sparingly
130 degrees for a few hours covered in aluminium foil
take the foil off and on high 190 degrees for another hour
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I live in town (though just a mile from a river), and have had coyote and fox in my front yard. The fox I see frequently, must live somewhere close.

A Bobcat could do it. Or a feral dog. Don't know if you have cougars/mountain lions, but obviously they could.
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I leave my varmint carcasses at the base of an old hickory tree that houses coons. The remains are always gone in the morning.
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They eat the same stuff as rabits, cook them like rabbits.
skin the chuck,
soak it in salt water overnight.
Quarter it, and Fry it until carmelized browned in garlic butter/olive oil mix.
Put everything (garlic butter and oil) into in a crock pot with parsnips, onions potatoes and carrots, Salt and pepper.
Fill it to 3/4 with 1 can of beef or chicken broth and the rest cold water.
cook on low 8 hrs
Smoke them
rub with beef rub, set over night in a tub in the refrigerator
use Mesqite chips sparingly
130 degrees for a few hours covered in aluminium foil
take the foil off and on high 190 degrees for another hour
Thanks, I put that in my recipe book. This one is over 15 pounds, biggest one yet, game cam set, might know tomorrow. Unfortunately this one was discovered a little too late to butcher, rigo had it, traps everywhere... Next one goes in the pot, really butchers like rabbit huh? Bladder too?
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Checking in. Had a couple lookers but no "takers", yet. Had something pass by in the distance, judging by eye height, I'd say it was a dog, possible coyote but it never approached the kill, cagey... Then I had a fox come into the frame but never went to check it out. Then a couple shots of deer. Wonder if the IR illuminating on this cam is scaring them off?
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Old 05-14-2020, 09:20 AM
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19 - 10 second videos captured, 2 foxes sniffing around, one with a mangy tail, other healthy. You all are going to think I am nuts. On frame #13, I catch a 1 second clip of the back end (from the side) of some kind of animal exiting the frame. Tail was thick, about 10" long and arched down, very thick, stocky animal. Searched the internet for side shots of animals walking and it looks just like a Wolverine.

It had to pass by the kill in full view and I cant figure out why I don't have a full body shot of this thing. Unless he was stalking EXTREMELY SLOWLY, this is the ONLY way you can beat a P.I.R detector as it detects rapid changes in background/forground IR levels. (I have been in the security buss for 39 years) I assume after it made it's stalk, it walked off at a normal walk speed and tripped the PIR, thus only getting the 1 second ass shot.

These things don't come down much below 60 degrees latitude, with the exception being in the west where they make it as far south as Wyoming. I am on the east coast, at about 40 degrees north. Far be it for me to judge but I swear that's what it looks like. I do have a couple pretty large well traveled ground dens further back in the woods that I never see any activity around but I know they are active. Back up with the cam. I saved that video and will try to post it at some point but I am trying to get conclusive evidence right now. Unusual...
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It's gone. In between frame 7 and 8 it is just disappears, gone. Its there at 12 midnight then gone at 4am when this mangy little fox shows up in frame 8, sniffing around. I have a hard time believing this little thing could drag off this hog, it was over 15lbs. but who knows. This camera records for 10 seconds on detection, then skips for 30 seconds to conserve battery. Next time I catch a hog, I am going to stake it down and set the camera for a shorter skip time. Dam...
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dog or coyote is my guess
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My neighbor would.
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Coyote gets my vote. I have some in my area. Near the Atlantic in NJ. I saw one during the night and another one during the day about a month ago.

Now is the time of year they are feeding on fawns. Friend of mine saw a coyote dragging a fawn across the end of a field. It had no problem dragging the fawn away.

Don't let your dog or cat out at night. They may not come home again.
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Coyote gets my vote. I have some in my area. Near the Atlantic in NJ. I saw one during the night and another one during the day about a month ago.

Now is the time of year they are feeding on fawns. Friend of mine saw a coyote dragging a fawn across the end of a field. It had no problem dragging the fawn away.

Don't let your dog or cat out at night. They may not come home again.
My dogs and cat are out at night and no coyote has dared to try to get the cat. My dogs would enjoy fighting a couple of coyotes. But the coyotes will not tangle with the dogs unless they brought in a very large pack.
Patch is about 90 lbs and I expect him to fill out at past 100 lbs or heavier. He and his 92 lb mama are white english southern farm dogs that were bred to fight wild canines. Originally I think they were intended for the nearly extinct red wolf and wild dogs. Now such dogs fight coyotes when they show up. The coyotes are around, but do not challenge the dogs staying mostly out of my fenced area of 7 acres. They spend most of the night barking and running about at all hours of the night. One wants at least two dogs out there for coyotes.

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Possible to get a set of tracks? Rake, scrape the area around a kill. Then wet it down good. Check the next AM.
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Possible to get a set of tracks? Rake, scrape the area around a kill. Then wet it down good. Check the next AM.
Na, 100's of years of leaves and compost, plus I wouldn't want to disturb the area, most animals don't like all of a sudden, new, unfamiliar surroundings. Guess I need to get my own game cam, I'll get this sucker one way or another...
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Ordered the cam. Next victim in the Q, the noose is tightening...
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A Dingo would do it.

And they especially like babies.
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Got the game cam today and I am setting traps. For anyone interested, I got the Stealthcam STC-G34 MAX. Looks like a decent unit, around $125, w/ card.

An updated version of the one I borrowed but more configurable. Still doesn't have post or pre record settings like commercial video servers but you can adjust a ton of settings. Knocked the pir delay down and set the record to 20 seconds. Maybe this weekend, we shall see...
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