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Old 11-06-2019, 01:49 PM
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November 9 thru 11.

It seems like just a few years ago instead of 30.

So hopeful then, and so sad what has become of freedom now. In Germany as well as the west.

It appears now as if evil never slept during the intervening time.

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November 9 thru 11.

It seems like just a few years ago instead of 30.

So hopeful then, and so sad what has become of freedom now. In Germany as well as the west.

It appears now as if evil never slept during the intervening time.

The Fall of the Berlin Wall (PART 1) - East Germany opens the gates (BBC News 9th November 1989 ) - YouTube
And we've already forgotten the lessons taught by the horrors of communism.
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And we've already forgotten the lessons taught by the horrors of communism.
No no no, let's try it again here. Itll be different this time. I swear!

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And we've already forgotten the lessons taught by the horrors of communism.
By the time the flaming idiot millennials, antifa, etc, are in their 50s, they will have learned their lesson the hard way.
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It doesn't seem that long ago when the Berlin wall came down. Hard to believe. I was working with at my father's newish company at that time I recall. Someone we worked with flew over the Germany to participate in the wall coming down I remember. He is/was a far left liberal with his politics but didn't care for communism.
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Yep, I remember watching Pres Reagan's Tear Down This Wall speech and thinking good luck on that but it's never gonna happen and then a couple of years later watching on the news going Damn, they are actually doing it.
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By the time the flaming idiot millennials, antifa, etc, are in their 50s, they will have learned their lesson the hard way.

I'm not so sure about that. The drift away from true individual freedom has been happening for a century or more, so many of the subsequent generations have really never experienced it. Personal responsibility has gone from revolving around family and children to making sure you follow the rules of the State. Do that, and your "score" (whatever they're calling it in China right now) stays sufficiently high to not attract attention. Exhibit any antisocial behavior, and you will be isolated and need re-education to come back into compliance.

There will certainly be pockets of resistance and exceptions, but Society has metasticized to the point that the new measure of success for most will be defined by how well you fit in. Sad commentary, but I see no way around it.

Of course, there's always the EMP's and/or meteors to level the playing field...
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We need a brick wall around CONgress, so we can fill it with water and flush the place. The cesspool is full of schiff for brains and needs cleaned out before schummer hits the fan.

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In 1964 I stood on the observation platform at Check Point Charlie literally on the wall between east and West Berlin. I remember clearly the stark reality of the difference between the two. East Berlin only had one street (the main drag) rebuilt from the ruins of WWII. The rest of the city consisted of people living in the bottom floors of buildings that were still rubble on every other floor.

My buddy and I spent a day in East Berlin and had an East German Vopo stick his AK-47 in my face for the "crime" of taking a photo of the east side of the Brandenburg Gate. Being there was a lesson in the difference between a dictatorship and a free nation that I will never forget.

As we were driving down the Autobahn in East Germany on the way to Berlin from Hannover, it was about sunset and the East German's, who had finished working the fields along the Autobahn had come over to the formidable fence that kept them off of the road (that was never out of sight of a machine gun tower at any point) and simply waved to the folks driving by. It was very clear that they weren't just being friendly. They waved in such a way as to let us know that they wished they were the ones who were in our cars and free. Trust me, it wasn't hard to tell.

The fools today who have been led to believe that Socialism/Communism is the way to go for the USA really need to spend a day in a Socialist/Communist dictatorship and they would awaken from their false dream and realize that Socialism/Communism always leads to greater regulation of citizen's lives and less freedom. There absolutely was no liberty in East Germany. Leaving West Berlin and re-entering West Germany was an occasion in which true sighs of relief were sighed.

On the ship home from Europe out of Rotterdam, I stayed up all night to catch a first glimpse of the Statue of Liberty in New York. I was emotionally flooded with a love of my country re-enforced by what I had seen in East Germany.

But, of course, the professors at our universities are blind to that reality and continue to propagate the "faith" of Socialism/Communism. I truly hope they are the first to be executed by the USSA government when it comes to power.
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By the time the flaming idiot millennials, antifa, etc, are in their 50s, they will have learned their lesson the hard way.
Maybe. I mean, in 2016 they responded to generations of boomers and gen-x-ers squandering their future by voting for a communist who promised to squander their futures even more. And then he lost the nomination to a murderess whose husband raped little children, so they voted for her, instead.
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