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I use a 30-06 for elk, with 180 grains. My rifle belonged to my father-in-law, so I was fond of it, but not of the giant bruise it left on my right “shoulder”. Like with many rifles, the butt was shaped for a guy’s chest, but the toe of the butt would slam into the top of my breast. So I had the butt cut at an angle to match the shape of my chest, added the biggest recoil pad I could find, and I am a happy shooter. You can see the comparison of my 30-06 on the top, with the butt angled, and my husband’s 7mm mag on the bottom.



So you might consider modifying the butt of your dad's rifle; that way you can keep using it.
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I use a 30-06 for elk, with 180 grains. My rifle belonged to my father-in-law, so I was fond of it, but not of the giant bruise it left on my right “shoulder”. Like with many rifles, the butt was shaped for a guy’s chest, but the toe of the butt would slam into the top of my breast. So I had the butt cut at an angle to match the shape of my chest, added the biggest recoil pad I could find, and I am a happy shooter. You can see the comparison of my 30-06 on the top, with the butt angled, and my husband’s 7mm mag on the bottom.



So you might consider modifying the butt of your dad's rifle; that way you can keep using it.
I bought my wife a Browning micro Midas shotgun several yrs ago. That their women's model.
The buttock was shaped similar to your photo.
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I use a 30-06 for elk, with 180 grains. My rifle belonged to my father-in-law, so I was fond of it, but not of the giant bruise it left on my right “shoulder”. Like with many rifles, the butt was shaped for a guy’s chest, but the toe of the butt would slam into the top of my breast. So I had the butt cut at an angle to match the shape of my chest, added the biggest recoil pad I could find, and I am a happy shooter. You can see the comparison of my 30-06 on the top, with the butt angled, and my husband’s 7mm mag on the bottom.



So you might consider modifying the butt of your dad's rifle; that way you can keep using it.
OR . . . if you wanted to maintain the integrity of your dad's rifle, find another stock to modify for it.
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I have had a 257 Roberts for many years now given to me by my Father to hunt with. Its getting where I would like to go after elk and mule deer for most of my hunting has been Whitetail at a family ranch for many years now but, the owner passed away and the ranch is up for sale.
So as a woman I would like to know what other women hunt with like to shoot what doesn't hurt to shoot.
Many have offered like an 3006 or 300 Winchester but shooting one of those does hurt me and I would like your thoughts on what you like to hunt with and what others kinds of guns others hunt with for deer and elk.
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You say you have had this "many years" now. I will presume you are very familiar, comfortable using, and proficient with this rifle already. With that in mind, I would say you are capable of good shot placement at a reasonable distance, so use what you have...

Two of the best elk hunters I knew growing up were my Grand father and his best friend. They both used 30-30 rifles. They both had the 30-06 rifles they come home with from WW1, but chose to use there saddle carbines.

What do other women use ??? Last season, my Sweetie harvested a black bear with a 762x39 caliber rifle. This caliber is considered the equivelant to the 30-30..

Bottom line, use what you are most familiar and comfortable with. No need to spend money, other than on practice ammo.
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I wish to thank you all very much for all the information that been shared and given in this column.
I have mainly hunted whitetail deer for several years, now I am going after a bigger animal one that weights upward 800 to a 1000 pounds so I feel that the 257 Roberts may not be enough rifle. So in asking advice from others their
thoughts as what may be a better choice of a larger caliber for hunting.
I will be in open country and at times in timber Mostly open planes.
The 30-30 I feel is just not enough for a 200 or so yard shot. I would shoot that
setting or prone unless there was a tree to shoot from. My father was a soldier
I was taught to shoot with my brothers who are good hunters as well.
My thoughts now leans toward a 308 with a muzzle break on the rifle to reduce recoil and a softer recoil pad as well.
Please share you thoughts on what you think.
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I'd suggest a .260 Rem, or a 7mm-08, they'll kick just a bit more than your .257, depending on gun weight.

A .270 or a .308 will kick a good bit more with a 140-150 grain bullet at decent velocity.

I have a 6.5 Swede, it's a sweet heart in my heavy Mauser, but the ammo is harder to find anymore.

This is Chuck Hawks recoil table....it's not perfect, may be wrong, but it gives you an idea...

First number is gun weight in pounds, second is recoil weight, third is recoil velocity.

Your gun:
257 Roberts (100 at 3000) 7.5 9.3 8.9
.257 Roberts (120 at 2800) 8.0 10.7 9.3
.257 Rob. Imp. (115 at 2900) 8.0 10.8 9.3


6.5x55 Swede (140 at 2650) 9.0 10.6 8.7

What could work:
.260 Rem. (120 at 2860) 7.5 13.0 10.6
.260 Rem. (140 at 2360) 8.0 9.5 8.8
.260 Rem. (129 at 2900) 8.25 12.5 9.9
.260 Rem. (140 at 2750) 8.25 11.9 9.7


7mm-08 Rem. (120 at 3000) 7.5 12.1 10.2
7mm-08 Rem. (140 at 2860) 8.0 12.6 10.1
7mm-08 Rem. (150 at 2750) 7.5 13.9 10.9
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260 might be a sweet cartridge but except that heavier bullets are available, is almost a duplicate of 257. 7-08 is just an incremental step up. Since the lady looks like she wants to buy another rifle (a good thing) she might as well make a real step up with the 308. No sense having multiple rifles that are nearly the same.
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I built a 7mm mauser for my wife. Nice rifle and it shoots well with mild recoil. I broke mine out Saturday. It has not been shot in 10 years. It needs to be sighted in. I've started. Mine never liked cast projectiles it prefers long heavy projectiles. I'll load some
175 gr lead free noslers for it. I looked in the gun rack, there is several 6.5s. recoil is limited with the 6.5 but with the exception of the swede, they are reloading items. to me the 308 is just a 30-06 wanabe. I have both and rarely shoot either
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I wish to thank you all very much for all the information that been shared and given in this column.
I have mainly hunted whitetail deer for several years, now I am going after a bigger animal one that weights upward 800 to a 1000 pounds so I feel that the 257 Roberts may not be enough rifle. So in asking advice from others their
thoughts as what may be a better choice of a larger caliber for hunting.
I will be in open country and at times in timber Mostly open planes.
The 30-30 I feel is just not enough for a 200 or so yard shot. I would shoot that
setting or prone unless there was a tree to shoot from. My father was a soldier
I was taught to shoot with my brothers who are good hunters as well.
My thoughts now leans toward a 308 with a muzzle break on the rifle to reduce recoil and a softer recoil pad as well.
Please share you thoughts on what you think.
Thank you
A muzzle brake and recoil pad will help in regards to a 308 rifle for reducing felt recoil.
I would also suggest that you custom fit your stock for your length of pull, which will do wonders when it comes to felt recoil. They do offer reduced recoil hunting loads as well. ( If this is to be a new rifle bought for this purpose, some models already sport stocks with spacers that can be removed to better fit your lop. )

As to 308 and hunting, the cartridge combined with a good bullet is more than enough to hunt anything in North America, despite what armchair hunters claim. ( A very good reason why 308 surpassed 3006 as an all around hunting cartridge, and why there are so many different rifles out there that are chambered for it)

Especially any species of deer, elk, caribou, antelope, or moose out to and past 200 yards. ( Not the only cartridge, but the cartridge you are now interested in. Anything you can kill with a 3006 or 270, you can also kill with a 308....as in those critters won't know the difference if you do your part )

A few examples of my 1st hand experience with this cartridge at year around hunting for most of my lifetime..... ( Ammo varied from 125gr reduced recoil to 168gr TTSX)

I used to be one of those hunters who thought I needed a wide range of cartridges for hunting this continent. ( 22 250 for varmints, a " thumper " for bears, and magnums for elk moose or bison. All ended up being replaced with 308 Winchester.

Good luck when you begin your search for a rifle ( you will have plenty of options to choose from via this cartridge), ......so have fun with it.
FWIW........My idea of a decent all around sport hunting rifle off the rack is a Ruger SS 18inbbl GSR. With that said, all the critters below were hammered with an M14. ( Not an M1A)

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.308 is your easiest/best option, considering recoil, if you want to able to shoot everything up including elk or moose. Consider the eye relief of whatever scope you'll use, with the increased recoil compared to what you're used to. Know a guy who wasn't fond of recoil and he really liked his .308 in a Winchester Model 70. This is another option, besides recoil pads you put on the stock.

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And, a whole new world opens up for the 308 if you reload. When my wife was hunting with a 308, I didn't like the splash 150gr ammo made when she hit smaller animals like doe antelopes (we're died in the wool meat hunters) So, I loaded up some 130 gr bullets and kept the velocity down. Then it performed more like my 270, plenty of power, but less damage to innocent meat.

Larger bore rifles have the advantage for preppers that you can cast your own bullets from lead and still have respectable kill power. Most 30 cals can be loaded up to 30-30 type velocities without leading the barrel. That makes you independent of having to stash factory made bullets. Even larger bores like 45 give even better energy when used with lead bullets.
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I would think you could stick with your Roberts , shoot a good bullet In the 115 to 120 grain range .
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There are also +P loadings for the Roberts. Don't know if they are available commercially, or just as reloads.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/10...-sst-box-of-20

From the reviews, it looks like this over penetrates for deer. May be a consideration for elk.
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260 might be a sweet cartridge but except that heavier bullets are available, is almost a duplicate of 257. 7-08 is just an incremental step up. Since the lady looks like she wants to buy another rifle (a good thing) she might as well make a real step up with the 308. No sense having multiple rifles that are nearly the same.
Except...the .308 usually recoils harder than the .260 in the same weight range of bullet.


The heavier bullets are EXACTLY the reason to go to something other than the quarter bore. The .260 and 7 mm have heavier bullets available, the .257 doesn't.

And most people want 150 grains or more for elk.

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.308 is your easiest/best option, considering recoil, if you want to able to shoot everything up including elk or moose. Consider the eye relief of whatever scope you'll use, with the increased recoil compared to what you're used to. Know a guy who wasn't fond of recoil and he really liked his .308 in a Winchester Model 70. This is another option, besides recoil pads you put on the stock.
Considering recoil if you're going .308...you may as well go with an AR, then the recoil will be reduced quite a bit.

I'd rather shoot my 30-06 than my .308, that specific gun is a hard kicker.

But it IS about the specific gun, the weight, stock shape and fit, and loads, all are part of the equation.
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If you decide to use the .257 I would set very hard rules for shots because you have very little margin for error. It is a great round for something up to mule deer size but not what I would want, or expect, someone to shoot at something like an elk.

Seeing as how you are comfortable entertaining the thought of a .308 I would look into a .270 or .280 if someone you know has one available to shoot.

An analogy for me is this. I don't like magnum turkey loads or 3" slug loads from a pump gun. They put out some serious recoil and the guns I use for those purposes are light because I intend on carrying them a ways. Now, I shoot those "heavy duty" loads because I want to kill what I am shooting at. I did just that with a tom turkey at 50yds last year. If I was shooting a "comfortable" loading in my 12ga I wouldn't have gotten a turkey.
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I wish to thank all of you very much for all the information shared so far.
Thinking about all that has been shared its down to a 260 or 7mm-08 both
seem to fit the need very well and are easy shooting and have enough energy to harvest a large animal.

So many have given great information and has valid points.
Thank you so much
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My 18YO daughter uses a 308, specifically a Thompson Center Compass.
It's a lightweight, budget rifle, but accurate, with a good trigger, and the recoil isn't anything my daughter is concerned about. She loves the rifle and is happy to pack it a couple miles to sit in a blind.
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.243 Winchester
Low recoil flat shooting and accurate.
Here is a young lady taking an elk at 688 yards
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Cannot do better than that.

https://youtu.be/hY0w1c-gf18

The .243 Win is my wife's hunting rifle. It's performance with 100gr pills is darn good and recoil is relatively light.

2,200 fps, over 1,000 ftlbs of energy at 400 yards isn't bad at all, and the drop when sighted in at 200 yards is only 19".



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Thinking about all that has been shared its down to a 260 or 7mm-08 both
seem to fit the need very well and are easy shooting and have enough energy to harvest a large animal.

So many have given great information and has valid points.
Thank you so much
Dee

In light of this information, I would go with the 26 caliber. And I wouldn't choose the 260 Rem.... I would go with the 6.5 Creedmoor. Many more manufacturers are offering the caliber in their hunting rifles now. It's super hard to find a 260 Rem.

If you are leaning to the bigger boy..... and if you look really close at ballistics, there just isn't much difference in the 7mm-08 and the 308. I would opt for the 308, because the ammo is much more abundant and a lot cheaper and it will hit a little harder on Elk and Bear.

But don't think a 26 caliber can't do it all. 6.5 Creedmoor is phenomenal with a 140gr bullet.

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I like 7mm bullets over 6.5mm but I haven't looked at the offerings these days.

I like the 7mm-08, never played with the 260 Rem. Have considerable experience with the 256 Newton aka 6.5-06. One sister enjoyed shooting it, much more than the 30-06.

You should find a rifle that fits you properly, that will help with recoil and shooting more accurately. You might play around with a ballistic calculator program to compare the 260 and the 7mm-08 with various bullet weights, using the factory velocity estimates.

https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady...rs/#!/standard
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What the 308 has over the 7mm-08 is availability. But what the 7mm-08 has over the 308 is everything else, to include long range repeatable accuracy, reduced recoil, and great heavy bullets loads. And its not like 7mm-08 is scarce - thanks to the gun rags kids and women all over the US are using it every season, which means good rifles and ammo available for the hunting crowd.

Here's some load data comparison of 7mm-08 to factory long and magnum loads.

http://sed88.tripod.com/rem7/compare.html

And a bull elk taken at 425 yds by a 12yo girl with a 7mm-08 and a 168 bullet.
https://www.longrangehunting.com/thr...7mm-08.209096/
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I wish to thank so many for all the information shared. I have looked at all the views and I am going with the 7mm-08 rifle.
Looked at several different models and manufacturers rifles and getting a Tikka
very smooth action and shouldered very well.
Is there a good deer load bullet and an elk load that works for you if you reload your bullets.
My neighbor will help me to reload my bullets and prep the brass.
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