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Old 03-16-2011, 03:43 PM
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Ok, so I bought the MSR Miniworks Ex but after I received it I decided I'm going to go with the Sawyer 4L Complete instead. I can return it but it will cost $7.95 shipping. So, after I would return that, I would be refunded $68.51

For basically $68 should I keep the MSR or should I return it and invest in another water filter? Is there any other filters out there that are the same price or less that would be better? I just worry about filters, breaking and I did NOT buy the field maintenance kit.

This would be for at home or if we had to flee but remember, this would be in ADDITION to the Sawyer 4L so I'm not saying returning this and not getting something else.

Thoughts because I just keep going back and forth thinking maybe I should be another somethink like the sawyer that doesn't have so many moving parts, rings, pumps, etc...



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The problem with a Miniworks is??????
Help me out here.
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I'm just not sure about having so many parts, being fragile, replacing filters, etc...

I hear how great they are and then I hear people say they were stranded without their maintenance kit. I don't backpack so it's hard for me to know which way to believe.

So, I still have the option to return it but only have a period of time and I lose out on $8 and I wasn't planning on spending $20 for the maintenance kit
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Two is one and one is none.

Keep it for a backup. Everything is prone to failure. Water is not something you want to be wrong about.

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I have a MSR MW and think it's pretty good. The main draw back is that the filter is ceramic (drop and done) and that it is very prone to freezing and can be a biyatch to get working if any of the lines get frozen. Backpacking with it in the winter time can be tough.
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But the problem with freezing also applies to the Sawyer perhaps even more so
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But the problem with freezing also applies to the Sawyer perhaps even more so
If freezing is a potential problem just put it in a pants or inside jacket pocket. It's not much bigger then a fist.
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If freezing is a potential problem just put it in a pants or inside jacket pocket. It's not much bigger then a fist.
That's not really the issue. I know the tricks of the trade.

The problem is when you are filtering water in the evening, often times the temperature is in the low 20's or even teens and it only takes minutes (seconds sometimes) to freeze and then it is a struggle to even filter the water at all. I can easily keep the filter from freezing overnight (bottom of my sleeping bag). In the Smoky Mountains, in winter, it can get bitterly cold and trying to thaw the filter by fire to keep it filtering becomes dangerous and difficult. Trying not to melt the plastic, o-rings or thermal-cycling the ceramic.
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I understand a backup is ideal but is THIS one the best backup? On other one I can think of in the price range of under $70 is the sawyer bucket filter???
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That's not really the issue. I know the tricks of the trade.

The problem is when you are filtering water in the evening, often times the temperature is in the low 20's or even teens and it only takes minutes (seconds sometimes) to freeze and then it is a struggle to even filter the water at all. I can easily keep the filter from freezing overnight (bottom of my sleeping bag). In the Smoky Mountains, in winter, it can get bitterly cold and trying to thaw the filter by fire to keep it filtering becomes dangerous and difficult. Trying not to melt the plastic, o-rings or thermal-cycling the ceramic.
Could you filter earlier when it's warmer, and simply save the filtered water to drink later?

Are you not carrying any water at all, and depending completely on a filter?
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I have had and used my MSR miniworks ex for 5 years now, and the only thing I have ever had to do to it is replace the oring on the pump cup. The filter is still within specs (the filter gauge does not fit over it yet) so it has lasted wuite awhile. It is important to fully dry the filer before use as it will mold. Boiling in water for a few mins is suffcient to clean it. (per MSR)
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Could you filter earlier when it's warmer, and simply save the filtered water to drink later?

Are you not carrying any water at all, and depending completely on a filter?
As it turns out, most of the time campsites are close to water. That being said, most often times, it is close to dark when we get to camp and we don't have a choice. When we can filter earlier, we do...sometimes it just doesn't work out that way.
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