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Old 06-22-2018, 03:38 PM
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No matter the cost, what's the best NBC mask you can buy? I have a family of four and want masks that'll cover all scenarios from NBC to viruses to smoke from wildfires, etc. I read an earlier post from a guy with a family in Europe looking for the same thing but didn't get an actual model of the best mask made in and available in the U.S.A. for purchase, thanks much.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:09 AM
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Your choice can be 1) full face mask for short term wearing (a few hours) or long term wearing (up to several days 24/24.
for 1, at the exception of nerve agents (against which the gas mask is not enough, nerve agents is a contact toxic), any good quality industrial respirator is ok. for 2) very few in the world are rated ad are told to have been tested for long term wearing. PAPR reduces the hard breathing, and offers a good protection for any sizes of face, but there is aminus (the cost indeed, but an overlooked point, they required fans and batteries ! that means power grid - the PAPR are only used in professional fields, where the grid is available). the other concern is the size of the mask - and the shape, they are not really universal, as long as you are to face serious use. Always use a 40mm thread.
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There is no such animal as what you are looking for, there is no such thing as a "best for everything" when it comes to PPE. Firefighter systems require tanks like Scuba systems and don't perform well under decontamination procedures in an NBC event. You had better have a designated decon area close by our you are not going to make it. Carrying those tanks burn up air really quickly if you are moving. When you say family of four does that imply children? What you find for children is not going to be like what professionals that go into quarantine situations will be wearing. Military issue and civilian mask are made different do different jobs. A civ mask is for one purpose. Get you out of the area and get you decontaminated at a medical facility. A .mil mask is to enable you to keep fighting long enough that a secure site can be set up for you to get to decon swap masks(maybe) filters, and new suits to get back into the fight.
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Somewhere in the past I read an article that compared different gas mask. I remember that the German Drager gas mask was rated highly. I have seen some surplus Dragers advertised in the past few months at prices in the $30 range, here is a link to a Drager on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/361512864618. Remember that any gas mask is only as good as the filter that is installed in it. Not all filters are created the same. After buying the mask, stock a few high quality filters for each mask as well. I purchased some U.S. Army model M11 surplus mask years ago, sealed in the cans, right after 911. One for each family member with filters. I am glad I never had to use them, but also glad they are there just in case. Potassium Iodide tablets are also kept in the same duffel bag as the mask and filters.
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You might be referring to this review on best prepper gas masks: https://theprepared.com/gear/reviews...ator-survival/

I spent a ton of time reviewing various popular models and recommend the Mestel SGE 400/3
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At the lower end, you can get commercial masks like Scott, 3M, STS Shigematsu that perform well. Full face for viruses is essential, as they can enter via the eyes which are a mucous membrane. The cartridges are also quite specialised. You can get multigas ABEK cartridges, but they have a much shorter exposure life than single-purpose cartridges. Always consider using a particle pre-filter.

For chemical warfare agents, you need chemical overalls. For some, you need encapsulation suits. I can't emphasise enough that this is where hazmat becomes a team sport. You will not be able to manage on your own, even donning and doffing the suits requires help. Decontamination is even more intensive and requires specialised equipment, and a cold or uncontaminated zone. Changing cartridges or taking the mask off to eat or drink in the hot zone exposes the user to whatever contaminant you are trying to avoid.

I guess you need to think about what your needs might be and look at a strategy to exit the hot zone, decontaminate and get to a clean safe zone, within a timeframe that will not exceed your limits without drinking, and the exposure life of the cartridges. Life is all about compromise!
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I have several 3M 6000 series and an MSA millennium. Spare filters and use the old filters (expired) to train with (donning the mask, moving/shooting)

I prefer the msa millennium though
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you also need the full MOPP gear.

Also how would you know its time to go into full MOPP posture?
And what if you are at work?
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Your choice can be 1) full face mask for short term wearing (a few hours) or long term wearing (up to several days 24/24.
for 1, at the exception of nerve agents (against which the gas mask is not enough, nerve agents is a contact toxic), any good quality industrial respirator is ok. for 2) very few in the world are rated ad are told to have been tested for long term wearing. PAPR reduces the hard breathing, and offers a good protection for any sizes of face, but there is aminus (the cost indeed, but an overlooked point, they required fans and batteries ! that means power grid - the PAPR are only used in professional fields, where the grid is available). the other concern is the size of the mask - and the shape, they are not really universal, as long as you are to face serious use. Always use a 40mm thread.
PAPRs are usually battery powered. Supplied air respirators are usually grid or engine dependent.

PAPRs eat filters faster, but offer better protection since the mask is under positive pressure. The ergonomics are better, especially under strenuous use as you note.

I’m not a fan of CBRN respirators for civilians- I can see n95s for pandemic use, and tear gas for security, but I think the rest is fantasy, unless you live or work close to a high risk environment. .
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Try approvedgasmasks.com

They have a wide range of masks to choose from.

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My fav is the Airboss LBM. they are beautiful.
Best for function id say a Avon FM53 or C50.
Mid range id say a PMK-S or Scott FRR.
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We have MSA fresh air masks.
with filters mounts being changed every few years in the military. Keeping up to date filters is a pain.
The industrial filters do not change. The MSA Millennium is a very good mask. +
My bro uses them in a testing facility. So you know they are good.
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Hated the M17, but was nice using the MCU-2/P for a few years in EUCOM. We had to wear full MOPP clothing during quarterly exercises which lasted for up to a week; during one 12 hour shift we wore our masks for eight straight hours (not fun).
I see MCU-2/P masks and filters at our local surplus store for relatively affordable prices; I have an Israeli mask, but may pick up an MCU-2/P.
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Hated the M17, but was nice using the MCU-2/P for a few years in EUCOM. We had to wear full MOPP clothing during quarterly exercises which lasted for up to a week; during one 12 hour shift we wore our masks for eight straight hours (not fun).
I see MCU-2/P masks and filters at our local surplus store for relatively affordable prices; I have an Israeli mask, but may pick up an MCU-2/P.


Good idea. Th MCU-2/P is a good mask, basically the same as the MSA Millennium. That said, they use a silicone skirt so they’re not a good choice for mustard gas or other corrosive/penetrating materials. For those you want something with a butyl rubber skirt.
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