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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020...r-george-floyds-deadly-encounter-with-police/


Minneapolis PD flat out murdered a handcuffed man in broad daylight as spectators looked on and filmed the incident.

If these police officers are bold enough to act in this manner when they know they are being recorded, I can't help but wonder how they conduct themselves when they aren't being recorded.

This incident took place Monday night (25th) and already 4 officers have been fired as of Tuesday the 26th.

I believe there should be 1st degree homicide charges filed.


Video of the incident can be found on youtube for those that haven't seen it yet.
 
#45 ·
Regarding the other two officers, I just saw a video that puts them there after the suspect was cuffed. One of them actually takes an interview from him on the scene.

I rescind my statement that the two backup officers were being sacrificed. They were there for the the entire time when the suspect was being subjected to the knee to the neck. Neither of them stepped in to stop it.

Folks, once a cop always a cop. And, I'm a cop. Based on this latest video the knee to neck was unnecessary. The guy was cuffed and taken across the street by four officers. Even if he started to resist they could have subdued him and thrown him into the RMP.

The suspect was wanted on a warrant and is a skell. However, what transpired was criminal. I suspect the officer was ****ed off at him and just wanted to inflict pain.

I'll still wait for the ME's report and see what charges the prosecutor files. However, these jerks made us look bad and just gave ammunition to every cop hater and agitator out there. It also gave Black Lives Matter and other racist, terrorist activists the green light to go out and riot last night.

Just as an FYI, two of the officers are white, one is black, and one is Asian. Just sayin'.

https://www.startribune.com/video-s...apolis-police-custody/570798911/?refresh=true
 
#46 ·
TRY AGAIN..
I haven't found anything that say WHERE he died.

Was it on the ground there under the cops knee
or was it "later" in custody?

It really can make a HUGE difference along with the autopsy.

Still shouldn't have been kneeling on the guy like that for so long, but it may not have been the cause of death.... I mean it is not like someone shot him with a shotgun.

I am not saying they were right under any circumstance, just that until the autopsy is in there is not a clear call on what he really died from. If the BG was a diabetic with a heart condition and he stroked out because of the struggle that is a lot different than an officer choking a guy to death.

I have knelt on many a head and neck in my day to keep a prisoner down where he can be controlled it is not that unusual police practice.

I have been in that situation before..

I was helping another officer who snagged himself a DUI 4th. Guy was definitely going to prison and he knew it. He pleaded and begged then struggled some, but, a drunk 56yr old really fat white guy was not much of a struggle.

Bob and I get him loaded into the back of the car and while I wait for the wrecker off he goes to get tested at the jail.
20 minutes or so later I get a squack to go to one of the private channels.
Its Bob, he says nothing but meet him at the jail ASAP.

I get there after getting the car towed away, Bob is not looking good, there is an ambulance at the booking dock along with 2 supervisors cars. I give him the Whats up look, he says OUR prisoner is dead. WTF????????????

He told me the guy didn't say a word to him on the way to jail. Figured he was just passed out drunk. Went to get him out of the car.. nothing. Realized he was not breathing. Deputies respond along with calling ambulance. CPR the whole works.. EMS gets there, do their thing... Elvis has DEFINITELY left the building. Great, admin leave... again while in paperwork hell.

AUtopsy, Guy was an alcoholic, morbidly obese, had suffered a massive coronary, the ME said his heart basically exploded and death would have been like throwing a light switch. His high alcohol content plus all the other factors including the stress of the arrest and knowledge he was going to prison just put him over the edge and nothing we did had anything to do with his death but being the officers who interacted with him that day.
 
#48 ·
TRY AGAIN..
I haven't found anything that say WHERE he died.

Was it on the ground there under the cops knee
or was it "later" in custody?


It really can make a HUGE difference along with the autopsy.

Still shouldn't have been kneeling on the guy like that for so long, but it may not have been the cause of death.... I mean it is not like someone shot him with a shotgun.

I am not saying they were right under any circumstance, just that until the autopsy is in there is not a clear call on what he really died from. If the BG was a diabetic with a heart condition and he stroked out because of the struggle that is a lot different than an officer choking a guy to death.

I have knelt on many a head and neck in my day to keep a prisoner down where he can be controlled it is not that unusual police practice.

I have been in that situation before..

I was helping another officer who snagged himself a DUI 4th. Guy was definitely going to prison and he knew it. He pleaded and begged then struggled some, but, a drunk 56yr old really fat white guy was not much of a struggle.

Bob and I get him loaded into the back of the car and while I wait for the wrecker off he goes to get tested at the jail.
20 minutes or so later I get a squack to go to one of the private channels.
Its Bob, he says nothing but meet him at the jail ASAP.

I get there after getting the car towed away, Bob is not looking good, there is an ambulance at the booking dock along with 2 supervisors cars. I give him the Whats up look, he says OUR prisoner is dead. WTF????????????

He told me the guy didn't say a word to him on the way to jail. Figured he was just passed out drunk. Went to get him out of the car.. nothing. Realized he was not breathing. Deputies respond along with calling ambulance. CPR the whole works.. EMS gets there, do their thing... Elvis has DEFINITELY left the building. Great, admin leave... again while in paperwork hell.

AUtopsy, Guy was an alcoholic, morbidly obese, had suffered a massive coronary, the ME said his heart basically exploded and death would have been like throwing a light switch. His high alcohol content plus all the other factors including the stress of the arrest and knowledge he was going to prison just put him over the edge and nothing we did had anything to do with his death but being the officers who interacted with him that day.

THIS article seems to be reporting that an ambulance arrived at the scene because the guy stopped breathing. Apparently he never was taken to jail.

“After he got out, he physically resisted officers,” police spokesman John Elder told reporters early Tuesday. “Officers were able to get the suspect into handcuffs and officers noticed that the man was going into medical distress.”
An ambulance brought Floyd to Hennepin Healthcare, where he later died, police say."

After about five minutes, Floyd stops moving and appears unconscious. People in the gathering crowd plead for the officers to check Floyd’s pulse. The officer on Floyd’s neck does not lift his knee until medical personnel arrive and carry him to an ambulance."
 
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#55 ·
We have PART I from the Star Tribune video from what I believe was a traffic cam.

We have PART III from a zillion cell phones showing the officer with his knee on the suspects neck.

What we need is PART II that shows what transpired between escorting the suspect to the car and him laying there with a knee on his neck.

We will get PART II when they release the officers' body cams. Even if this big guy went completely berserk it is going to be difficult to justify keeping the knee on him for that length of time even if they had to do it to get him compliant.

Minnesota changed it's rules to allow the release of officers' body cam footage prior to the completion of the BCA investigation after the SPPD cop shot the guy that attacked him with a knife last year. The quick release of that video stopped a big demonstration and riot before it could get started. Even the black racist activists had to shut up after seeing the video.

The fact that they haven't released that footage makes me think that there may not be anything on it to justify what happened.
 
#62 ·
I am little confused on what people are trying to say. George was resisting arrest according to all accounts. After he was handcuffed "behind" his back 4 officers continue to lay on him with one with a knee to side of his neck the entire time. You only see the one on his neck on the video but from a still shot across the street you see the other three officers laying on the rest of his body. He complained about breathing etc. Actually from the video the one cop didn't get of his neck until the EMT arrived. This is extremely excessive as all they had to do was throw him in a patrol car. Even if George didn't die it would still be excessive. Someone said it earlier it seems like the officer was a little ****ed off and want to "make him feel it a little" and the man died.
 
#63 ·
There are pieces missing. As Batck10 pointed out, there is a gap in the videos. We don't know why or how he ended up on the ground. I don't think it was because he was cooperating or he tripped. I suspect there was a skirmish.

Cops don't try to kill or torture someone with 50 people standing around. The cop looks calm to me, just like he was doing his job. Something happened that we don't yet know.

And just like I previously mentioned with the Rodney King incident, the entire full-length video told a different story than the edited clip the media played over and over.

Watch the first video at the link below starting at around 4:00. I don't see a whole lot of "resisting".

https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/27/surv...eorge-floyd-killed-minneapolis-not-resisting/
Watch the tail-end of the video, the guy fell, they picked him up, then you can see the guy thrashing about, but it's blocked by another vehicle. We still do not know how he ended up on the ground on the other side of the cop car. That video could give us a lot of answers.

The could be another traffic cam in that intersection that may tell us more. If it exists, the FBI is likely studying it.

Some of the articles are already calling George Floyd "the Gentle Giant." That was the fictitious nickname they used for Michael Brown, and he was not known for being gentle.

Whether the cop is guilty or not, the deck is being stacked against him.
 
#66 ·
Utterly despicable.

If I had been present with a gun....I don't know what I would have done.

I'll tell you what, I wouldn't be surprised it they burned Minneapolis to the ground. It would be justified.
I completely agree with you.
 
#71 ·
What we know is the suspect resisted and his strength necessitated officers sitting on him. No doubt the knee on the neck should have been released before it caused his death. How ever this ends up I see no need for riots because the wrong people always get hurt. Bad things happen when you fight the officers during an arrest. I think I'll be cooperative when stopped and take the police brutality out of the equation. I seriously doubt we will miss this career criminal.
 
#76 ·
#78 ·
According to this local Minneapolis news report, the cops' body cams were on. We probably won't see that footage until they decide if they are going to charge the officers.
We probably won't see that footage until they decide if it damages their case.
 
#80 ·
I'd like to remind the officers here that defending those " few bad apples " only drives home the us vs them mentality.

You guys really don't want that you know. Right now, most people you deal with respect the badge and comply without question.

If the day comes that's no longer the case...I suggest a different line of work friend
 
#88 ·
Excuse me, but do you know how to read? Reread my posts.

My disagreeing with some idiots on here that are calling for burning down Minneapolis and shooting cops has nothing to do with my opinion on the actions of these officers.

EXCERPTS FROM POST #26
"...The bottom line is that within 24 hours of the incident the officers involved were not only suspended, but then fired; the BCA and FBI initiated investigations; the mayor of Minneapolis was on TV talking about the incident. There was NO need for a demonstration to demand "action." This was just an excuse to get out and run wild. This is typical behavior for the demographic involved.

Getting back to the incident itself. Based on what I saw, the officer used excessive force once the suspect was subdued and pending the Medical Examiner's report I would say he was the cause of the suspect's death. His partner is complicit, because he did not make an attempt to stop the restraint. ..."



EXCERPTS FROM POST #45

"...Folks, once a cop always a cop. And, I'm a cop. Based on this latest video the knee to neck was unnecessary. The guy was cuffed and taken across the street by four officers. Even if he started to resist they could have subdued him and thrown him into the RMP.

The suspect was wanted on a warrant and is a skell. However, what transpired was criminal. I suspect the officer was ****ed off at him and just wanted to inflict pain.

I'll still wait for the ME's report and see what charges the prosecutor files. However, these jerks made us look bad and just gave ammunition to every cop hater and agitator out there. It also gave Black Lives Matter and other racist, terrorist activists the green light to go out and riot last night.

Just as an FYI, two of the officers are white, one is black, and one is Asian. Just sayin'.
 
#87 ·
The first video clearly shows him cuffed being walked to the police car. There does not appear to be any great amount of resistance on his part. The police have him moving along.

So now we have him apparently cuffed while being held down on pavement at his neck.

I don't see how the body cameras are going to help the police on this killing.

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#6,318 ·
Situation can change in a heartbeat for any reason to set off the detainie turning a peaceful situation to a oh **** moment..
Now I'm not defending this picticluar officers, but I've been in these situations both as a LEO and private security and believe me you don't have time to think on what you're going to do when it happens because that's when trouble rises it's ugly head.

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#90 ·
No matter what he did, resist, **** on the murderers foot, kill his grandmother with a shard of glass, the uniformed thug is not judge, jury and executioner. He just murdered a guy that was presumed innocent and he is yucking it up with buddies right now over a beer, telling ethnic jokes until his taxpayer funded lawyer and the "all for one and one for all" legal system gives him a bunch of back pay and a retirement bonus.

Turn the tides. Joe regular guy sees uniformed jack boot thug beat a grandmother and her two grandchildren with a night stick while zapping the with a cattle prod each time they fall down. Joe regular guy can't take it and knocks uniformed jack boot down and stands on his neck until dead. Joe regular probably would never make it to jail. If he did he would succumb to internal injuries from the multiple beatings in the few blocks to jail in the name of resisting. He would be a menace for saving granny and the kids.
 
#94 ·
#106 ·
George Floyd seems to have been straight up murdered under color of authority. It's inexcusable according to the visual evidence we've all seen so far.

That said, what's happening there now isn't a "protest." They had a protest Tuesday night. That's understandable and appropriate.

This, is a violent riot.

Target and Dollar Tree had nothing to do with George's death, yet they're getting looted. Along with every liquor, shoe and convenience store the looters can reach.

Needs more roof Koreans... no, needs more JTAC.
Someone needs to call in a damn airstrike on those losers. Not one of them would be a loss to society.
 
#110 ·
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Target and Dollar Tree had nothing to do with George's death, yet they're getting looted. Along with every liquor, shoe and convenience store the looters can reach.
During th Rodney King riot, local news cameras caught a male ghetto dweller smashing a store front window and taking an arm load of expensive athletic shoes. The news field reporter ask the thieving urbanite why he was taking the shoes. He responded.....” I be getin’ justix fo Rotney”.

It’s always the same...just different cities.
 
#107 ·
Target and Dollar Tree had nothing to do with George's death, yet they're getting looted. Along with every liquor, shoe and convenience store the looters can reach.
Proxy warfare. They feel, probably, falsely, but understandably, that the police stations are too hard of a target, so it's the age old practice of hitting soft targets, in the a name of a hard target. Not very 'noble' but usually a pretty effective and surprisingly bloodless way to vent the rage they feel.

And, the easy way out...and why this kind of thing keeps happening...but its human nature.
 
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