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Old 06-01-2019, 04:47 PM
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I don't use google anything, but for those that use Chrome, this might be of interest to you..

https://news.yahoo.com/google-quietl...212004948.html


Google is evil..
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When is the Chrome ruining update suppose to take effect? The article makes it sound like its already happened but I havent had any issues with add blocker.

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The whole digital world is evil. I'm running chrome and my adblocker is still working good. I'm sure that the adblock people will keep up, might take them a few days. The job security for the anti-virus folks are the hackers.
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I don't use chrome several reasons. I'm a technical support agent for a nationwide ISP, chrome and firefox have the most problems...
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I don't use chrome several reasons. I'm a technical support agent for a nationwide ISP, chrome and firefox have the most problems...
I'm just curious... Which browsers work the best in your opinion?

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I don't use chrome several reasons. I'm a technical support agent for a nationwide ISP, chrome and firefox have the most problems...
What browsers do you recommend?
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https://restoreprivacy.com/secure-browser/

https://www.techworld.com/security/b...wsers-3246550/

https://www.zdnet.com/pictures/all-t...ased-browsers/
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Windows 7, and all updates and auto installs are turned off. I have gotten a few alerts for browsers and such but decline installs. I also have restores that go back years, never needed one yet.

I am sure some day if not already there is a stealth mod in it.

I dont even try to keep up anymore, that is a young brains game.
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I never did like chrome since they tried to take over as my default browser without my permission.
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I am not a big fan of Chrome either. However, at work we've a number of applications that seem to work best on Chrome, they are broken in IE11, and marginal at best in FF.
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I don't see how they can make it any worse. I refuse to use it or anything else to do with google.
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Google is evil..
Google isnít evil. It is a company that sells internet ads. You shouldnít be surprised that the application it gives away for free would display ads.
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Google isn’t evil. It is a company that sells internet ads. You shouldn’t be surprised that the application it gives away for free would display ads.
I suppose you're fine then with Google tracking you?
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Google isn’t evil. It is a company that sells internet ads. You shouldn’t be surprised that the application it gives away for free would display ads.
It isn't the ads, it's the spying. The INTENT is not evil, but the result kinda is.

I don't use Chrome because of it, but I have an Android phone so I can't complain too much.

However, some of the spying can be mitigated. Not all of it, but you might as well turn off all of the spying that you CAN turn off:

https://safety.google/privacy/privacy-controls/

If you haven't done this yet, sign into Gmail or something, go here and see how much they track your location:

https://www.google.com/maps/timeline?pb

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It isn't the ads, it's the spying. The INTENT is not evil, but the result kinda is.
I don't consider Google's "spying" to be "evil" for a few reasons:

1. It's not secret. We all know that everyone is collecting data as we browse the web

2. It's optional. You don't really "have" to use the internet at all. If you do, there are some hoops to jump through to limit Google's ability to track you, as you suggested. Granted, Google's programmers are likely to be better than everyone else's, so there is sort of an "arms race" on ad blockers and VPNs... but they are something.

3. It's useful (to me, at least). I like having so much content on the web delivered at no direct cost, but as you say, nothing id REALLY free. If ads and some personal information are the cost of having a service like Google Search or YouTube available, I will gladly make that trade.

Also, I like to have ads delivered that I am actually interested in. On the sites that do it best, more than half the things advertised are things that I might actually want. That's handy. A few weeks ago, somehow the e-commerce oracles knew that I was going to need some safety glasses. (Maybe from my searching for chainsaw and mower reviews... or maybe from some other magic.) However, they did it, the ads came at just the right time and led me to a good deal on Amazon. Win-win-win.

It is probable that these perfectly served ads cause some consumers to buy things they don't REALLY need. That's free enterprise for ya.




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I don't consider Google's "spying" to be "evil" for a few reasons:

1. It's not secret. We all know that everyone is collecting data as we browse the web
How much do you think their marketshare would suffer if not just in their microscopic, 1000-page user agreement, UP FRONT, on their download page, and/or if every time Chrome launched, it says that they tracked everything that you the user did, and they can sell or use that information however they see fit?

Maybe people (I suspect most) would be like you, and say "who cares". But, there are others who do. Isn't one of the great things about the Internet is that it's chock-full of information? And choice? Why not inform your users, and make it possible for them make an informed choice (like you did)?
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I don't consider Google's "spying" to be "evil" for a few reasons:

1. It's not secret. We all know that everyone is collecting data as we browse the web

2. It's optional. You don't really "have" to use the internet at all. If you do, there are some hoops to jump through to limit Google's ability to track you, as you suggested. Granted, Google's programmers are likely to be better than everyone else's, so there is sort of an "arms race" on ad blockers and VPNs... but they are something.

3. It's useful (to me, at least). I like having so much content on the web delivered at no direct cost, but as you say, nothing id REALLY free. If ads and some personal information are the cost of having a service like Google Search or YouTube available, I will gladly make that trade.

Also, I like to have ads delivered that I am actually interested in. On the sites that do it best, more than half the things advertised are things that I might actually want. That's handy. A few weeks ago, somehow the e-commerce oracles knew that I was going to need some safety glasses. (Maybe from my searching for chainsaw and mower reviews... or maybe from some other magic.) However, they did it, the ads came at just the right time and led me to a good deal on Amazon. Win-win-win.

It is probable that these perfectly served ads cause some consumers to buy things they don't REALLY need. That's free enterprise for ya.
Well if that's all they used your private data for (to send you ads), you might have a point. But they sell it to other companies. Facebook is MUCH worse at this, but I'm sure Google does it too. The point is, they have all your data and you think they have not abused it yet, but what's stopping them?

And they have a TON of data on all of us, and there is no reason they can't turn it over to malevolent gov't or private entities.

Facebook recently gave a user's personal information to a Daily Beast reporter so they could dox him in an attempt to ruin the guy's life because he posted that altered video of Nancy Pelosi:

https://briefgate.com/2019/06/02/dai...ump-supporter/

Everything seems great, so you trust them, until it isn't so great anymore.

And if you say you don't care because you're not on Facebook, that doesn't matter. People you know are on Facebook, so Facebook has your data.

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Google isn’t evil. It is a company that sells internet ads. You shouldn’t be surprised that the application it gives away for free would display ads.
Nothing to truly free with Google. Everything they offer "for free" is spyware. Their TOS (terms of service), which no one reads, clearly states that they can use any information they gather from any of their services for any purpose they wish. You have no right to privacy when using any Google product.

That includes GMail. I only use GMail for newsletters and junk mail.

I ran a white hat SEO company for several years. I once ran a test that proved how Chrome was spyware that reported every web page you visited back to Google. Google uses Chrome as a spider to find new web sites. I set up several hidden web pages in various sites. There were no links to the hidden pages and no way for a user or a search engine spider to find them. I waited a week and kept checking Google's index. The hidden pages showed up in Google within 24 hours after visiting the pages with Chrome. They never showed up in Yahoo or Bing.

I'm also a former Google Partner for AdWords advertising. AdWords is Google's cash cow. They get over 95% of their revenue from advertising.

There is only one thing to keep in mind when it comes to Google. Google is not your friend.
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This is exactly right. The level of tracking Google does is probably making the NSA jealous. For example, I will sometimes VPN into the corporate network via the VPN tunnel hosted in PRG. Using Chrome, not too long before ads start popping up in Czech. Same as when I tunnel in via the tunnel in Malaysia. Never mind I am US-based. Love it.
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At least for Chrome users, consider Iridium.

For Firefox users, Waterfox.

Both strip off privacy issues, including telemetry.

Waterfox allows for legacy add-ons plus configuring the interface the way you want (e.g., status and vertical toolbar, classical theme, etc.).

For adblockers, there's uBlock Origin with multiple lists, including those from Nano Defender. For other security addons, there's NoScript, CanvasBlocker, Decentraleyes, Privacy Possum, Tunnel Bear blocker, and more.
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