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Huh, but you just made a post saying that your grateful for covid? Could it be your not actually grateful and you just trolling? You? No. I could never believe you would do something like that.
Unable to discern trolling from sarcasm, huh?

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Anyway, even if you are, I'm not.
You seem to only troll.

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If you can avoid the horrible death, covid is a godsend.
Yea, only a 99.72% or better chance to survive.

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Shall we count the ways?
You seem to really believe in the net benefits of a global plague!
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You seem to really believe in the net benefits of a global plague!
Wha? I thought your crowd thinks its all just made up and nobody is really dying from it other than a few old people nobody liked anyway...'sarcastically' making fun of hundreds of thousands of corpses that didn't really die of covid anyway.

Now your saying its a global plague? Which is it?
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Wha? I thought your crowd thinks its all just made up ...

Now your saying its a global plague? Which is it?
I've answered this question several times. I'm surprised you have not read it before.

The 'benefits' you cite are from the political reactions to the hyped up danger.


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...and nobody is really dying from it other than a few old people nobody liked anyway...'sarcastically' making fun of hundreds of thousands of corpses.
People are dying from it, ~0.44--> 0.28--> 0.15%. However, the sarcasm is not toward people dying but the politicking, i.e., falsely attributing deaths to CCP virus.
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I've answered this question several times. I'm surprised you have not read it before.
You where one of the first people grace my ignore list. I just took you off today to see what you had to say about this. Usually you don't crawl out of the religious and political section and actually post anything prepping related so I wondered what it was that you felt was worth your attention up here. Don't worry, its temporary.

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The 'benefits' you cite are from the political reactions to the hyped up danger.
Well, if the danger is not real, then the benefits are even greater. Like I said. Grateful, and it looks like its only getting better, made up or not the covid numbers are only going up, as will the reaction which so far has mostly been in the right direction.
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Are you trying to establish a 'new' normal?
The "new normal" was established after 9/11. There has been nothing one could call "normal" since then.
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The "new normal" was established after 9/11. There has been nothing one could call "normal" since then.
Depending on your age. Some people will say it hasn't been normal since the 60's...while to a 20 year old Covid was the end of 'normal'.

New normals seem to happen about every 10-20 years. I must say, the 'normal' between 9/11 and Covid was not my favorite and I will not mourn anything about its passing.
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Huh, but you just made a post saying that your grateful for covid? Could it be your not actually grateful and you just trolling? You? No. I could never believe you would do something like that.

Anyway, even if you are, I'm not.

If you can avoid the horrible death, covid is a godsend.


Shall we count the ways?

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Borders...closed. Finally, and we saved billions by not having to build a wall to do it.

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You realize of course, the US citizens are literally prisoners inside our own borders. We cannot travel internationally as we are banned by other countries from entering.

Had we effectively locked down and not politicized wearing masks and blatantly tested the waters on Memorial Day and July 4th, the trend would be going downward instead of up.
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Huh, but you just made a post saying that your grateful for covid? Could it be your not actually grateful and you just trolling? You? No. I could never believe you would do something like that.

Anyway, even if you are, I'm not.

If you can avoid the horrible death, covid is a godsend.


Shall we count the ways?

$1200 given to everyone in a country where most don't ever have even half that in their bank accounts. Most people are I know are a lot better off now than they where before covid.

Schools, underfunded, socialists snake pits of abuse and mindless drudgery, closed and normalization of homeschooling. NOBODY I've talked to with kids is send theirs back this year.

Gun sales, up. Particularly among new buyers which should make a difference when politically when it comes to gun control. The guy with 10 ARs who buys five more doesn't really help anyone, but that single mother who goes out and gets a glock is a convert.

More people cooking at home, increasing independence, health and savings.

More people having babies at home, increasing independence, health and savings.

Bars, closed or restricted, less people drinking and driving.

Less people driving period, reducing traffic accidents, traffic congestion pollution and demand for oil.

Which makes things better if you ARE still driving.

More people gardening increasing independence, health and savings.

More people prepping.

Increased awareness of the perils of a globalized supply chain. Shift to local and domestic production.

Normalization of working from home, which most people love and never want to end.

Massive reduction in GDP=a lot more free time for the population of the country. Less stress, more sleep, more time to enjoy life. The Rat race has taken a massive blow.

Speaking of rats, massive increase in pet ownership. The animal shelters are almost empty.

Normalization of mask wearing. We no longer have to expose our faces to the general public (or security cameras)

Divorce rate down.

Price of gold up.

People spending more time living together in families or covid 'pods', Increased tribialization, the way people where meant to live.

Lakes, parks, wilderness areas closed to non-residents (at least here), means instead of the usual summer glut of tourists we have our lands back to ourselves.

Borders...closed. Finally, and we saved billions by not having to build a wall to do it.

If we can just get a vaccine, or let it burn through the country and kill off the few million vulnerable people without giving up all these changes, the future could be pretty bright.
Admittedly, I was being facetious. Some considered my post as comedic or amusing. I realize that liberals don't like comedy these days but many comedians throughout my lifetime have used comedy to get various points across.

My point (for anyone who didn't grasp it) is that all the other forms of death miraculously decreased the moment the "officials" started inflating the Covid numbers for profit. CNN makes lots of money if they can keep people fixated on their channel. Hospitals make lots of money if they can claim that 100 out of 100 patients died of Covid (even when they didn't).

There is more than one way to skin a cat and there is more than one way to get a point across.
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The "new normal" was established after 9/11. There has been nothing one could call "normal" since then.
Businesses and schools were open after 9/11. Americans could travel, including down any lane at the grocery store after 9/11.
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You realize of course, the US citizens are literally prisoners inside our own borders. We cannot travel internationally as we are banned by other countries from entering.

Had we effectively locked down and not politicized wearing masks and blatantly tested the waters on Memorial Day and July 4th, the trend would be going downward instead of up.
Covid would have kept the world in chaos regardless of what we did or didn't do. It's all about control ... not health.
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You realize of course, the US citizens are literally prisoners inside our own borders. We cannot travel internationally as we are banned by other countries from entering.
I didn't say there weren't any negatives.

But I would never say I was a prisoner in this country. Are you familiar with the parable of "Brer rabbit and the briar patch"?

I generally think people travel way too much anyway. I'm sure those other countries are better off without us, as we are without them.

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Had we effectively locked down and not politicized wearing masks and blatantly tested the waters on Memorial Day and July 4th, the trend would be going downward instead of up.
Of course. We totally blew it. It would be controlled by now if we where most other countries. But we aren't. Wether exceptionally stupid, or clever enough use this to get what we wanted all along, I don't know...but one way or another, the US wants covid to run rampant. I expect the most of the world is going to keep us locked up quarantined for a long time. Another positive. Time we learned to stand on our own.
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Businesses and schools were open after 9/11. Americans could travel, including down any lane at the grocery store after 9/11.
You are missing the much bigger picture. Also, you should recall all of the air travel restrictions post 9/11 which continue to this day. Think on it.
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I guess maybe the schlubs making $600 more per week than they were while working. Paid vacation and then some.

The rest of us, not so much.
I'm curious about this, since I know some folks getting UI but they're NOT getting any extra per week much less $600??????
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Admittedly, I was being facetious.

My point (for anyone who didn't grasp it) is that all the other forms of death miraculously decreased the moment the "officials" started inflating the Covid numbers for profit.
There was nothing miraculous about it. The lockdown drastically decreased most high risk behavior. It should come as no surprise that when people drive less, they crash less. When the bars are closed, people drive drunk less. When people are at home, there are less robberies, when people are home, there are less serious house fires. When women aren't working, there are less premature births. When people work less there are less heart attacks and cancers. None of this should be controversial. Even IF covid deaths are inflated, the deflation of other causes is completely logical.

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Covid would have kept the world in chaos regardless of what we did or didn't do. It's all about control ... not health.
What chaos? Everyone was talking about WWIII before covid. Now things seem pretty peaceful out there, ( a few regions of a few liberal cities excepted) covid seems to have damped down international politics.
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Admittedly, I was being facetious.

My point (for anyone who didn't grasp it) is that all the other forms of death miraculously decreased the moment the "officials" started inflating the Covid numbers for profit.
There was nothing miraculous about it. The lockdown drastically decreased most high risk behavior. It should come as no surprise that when people drive less, they crash less. When the bars are closed, people drive drunk less. When people are at home, there are less robberies, when people are home, there are less serious house fires. When women aren't working, there are less premature births. When people work less there are less heart attacks and cancers. None of this should be controversial. Even IF covid deaths are inflated, the deflation of other causes is completely logical.

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Covid would have kept the world in chaos regardless of what we did or didn't do. It's all about control ... not health.
What chaos? Everyone was talking about WWIII before covid. Now things seem pretty peaceful out there, ( a few regions of a few liberal cities excepted) covid seems to have damped down international politics.
Really appreciate your posts. You're one of the guys here who seems to be reasonable and levelheaded in your perspective and commentary.
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You are missing the much bigger picture. Also, you should recall all of the air travel restrictions post 9/11 which continue to this day. Think on it.
Agh ha. Keep telling yourself that. And by all means, please enlighten us all as to what 'the much bigger picture' that I'm missing.
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Businesses and schools were open after 9/11. Americans could travel, including down any lane at the grocery store after 9/11.
You are missing the much bigger picture. Also, you should recall all of the air travel restrictions post 9/11 which continue to this day. Think on it.
I travel within and outside the country all the time, prior to and after 9/11. There are very FEW "restrictions" if you can call them that. Basically you can't take bottled drinks into airports... and you have to take your shoes off for the TSA.

Big friggin deal.
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I'm curious about this, since I know some folks getting UI but they're NOT getting any extra per week much less $600??????
Your answer is here....

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jennife.../#5108c9604a51



The weekly $600 supplemental unemployment benefit that’s gone out to millions of out-of-work Americans affected by the coronavirus pandemic is set to expire at the end of this week. And it seems very unlikely that Congress will pass an extension before that deadline.

There is likely to be some supplemental unemployment relief coming, though. How much could it be and how long could it last? Here’s what we know so far.

================================================== ===========================

Wish I could get the Government to pay me $600 a week to stay home just one week.
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I travel within and outside the country all the time, prior to and after 9/11. There are very FEW "restrictions" if you can call them that. Basically you can't take bottled drinks into airports... and you have to take your shoes off for the TSA.

Big friggin deal.
I used to carry on a bottle of Jim Beam when I flew to the Philippines.
I don't fly anymore.

But I guess the Airlines can survive without me.
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Well, if the danger is not real, then the benefits are even greater.
It's like you and I are living in anti-worlds of each other. In my world, there is another thread here that details how the economy shrunk 32.9% last quarter. The largest contraction in US history - worse than the Great Depression. More people unemployed that the Great Recession and possibly even the Great Depression.

It's THE VERY OPPOSITE of benefit. Certainly no net benefit.
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