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Thanks to Covid 19, deaths caused by the flu, colds, diabetes, cancer, COPD, heart disease, old age, drownings, and car crashes have declined SIGNIFICANTLY. So, in a way, Covid has saved many, many lives.
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Besides that, it has illustrated the complete ineffectiveness of gubernment and blatant disinformation of the lame stream media.
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LOL...AJ, you are so bad....thank you again.
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Thanks to Covid 19, deaths caused by the flu, colds, diabetes, cancer, COPD, heart disease, old age, drownings, and car crashes have declined SIGNIFICANTLY. So, in a way, Covid has saved many, many lives. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.survivalistboards.com/images/smilies/xeye.gif[/IMG][IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.survivalistboards.com/images/smilies/redface.gif[/IMG]
This is simply not true.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2767980

I bet 6 weeks ago, you were saying that the increase in Covid19 cases was merely due to increased testing...

It's really pathetic.
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This is simply not true.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2767980

I bet 6 weeks ago, you were saying that the increase in Covid19 cases was merely due to increased testing...

It's really pathetic.
Whatís pathetic is that you canít prove your position either, but claim the other argument is pathetic.

Quit being a sheep. Itís pathetic.
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We ain't scientists, we don't have to prove anything. What we should do is be able to support our position. I did post a link to a fairly reputable study...

What you got to support your position?
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It actually has.

Those of us with EMS radios have talked about the significant drop in calls, it's been posted that there are less stressed preme births etc.
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I know here in our county it's been that way. We have had falls onto concrete from 10+ feet which resulted in a covid death. An accidental gunshot which also resulted in a covid death. So, yes a lot of deaths have went down because of covid. It just might end up making everything else much safer.
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NYTimes posted an article awhile ago about how deaths from heart attacks, strokes and other medical conditions was down 40-60%. They claimed the deaths were down because people were less stressed.
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Can't even make a bloody sarcastic post, without politics or the "I'm-right-you're-wrong" response.

Wow, sometimes survival needs humor for relief.
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Thanks to Covid 19, deaths caused by the flu, colds, diabetes, cancer, COPD, heart disease, old age, drownings, and car crashes have declined SIGNIFICANTLY. So, in a way, Covid has saved many, many lives.
You are so...

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Many of those who died from the China Virus were already on death's door.
Does anyone deny this?

Staying at home means your less likely to die in an accident.
Common sense anyone?

If you fight off the China Virus, can we agree you will probably not
die from flu?
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Thanks to Covid 19, deaths caused by the flu, colds, diabetes, cancer, COPD, heart disease, old age, drownings, and car crashes have declined SIGNIFICANTLY. So, in a way, Covid has saved many, many lives.
That's also what I heard people saying, took about 15 minutes to find numbers online that contradicted those facts.

Check historical data several years back you will see a spike in total deaths for the months your state is being hit. Look hard enough and you might find numbers broken down by causes of deaths. You might see a slight decline in all the categories but not a significant amount like you think.

Here's what I posted in another thread.
https://www.survivalistboards.com/sh...=953532&page=2

Couldn't really figure out CDC website but found info for my state of NJ

https://nj.gov/health/chs/documents/...0Residence.pdf

Total deaths NJ
...........March..... April.......May.......June......July
2017___6,762___6,285___6,142___5,775___5,831
2018___6,681___6,181___5,950___5,874___6,112
2019___6,735___5,947___6,069___5,784___5,950
2020___7,953__17,856___9,512___6,204___4,462

These are total deaths, so you can easily see the spike. Doesn't matter how they classified each death the spike is there.

https://www.mdch.state.mi.us/osr/Pro...lyDxCounts.asp
This is Michigan broken down by cause of death for 2019 and 2020.

I wish things would be reported graphically, its easier for the general population to follow
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Well, a friend of my wife's who she had gone to school with just passed from it, until then he was very, very healthy; so No it's not only those on "death's door" many who have died from this virus were not in poor health; despite those who died who were in bad health. He was not in his 70's (obviously) either for that matter
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Of course there are some people who die from it without other health
problems, but....

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/ne...ns/2962721001/

Though people of all ages are affected by coronavirus, many of those who develop severe complications after contracting it have preexisting medical conditions. According to a CDC report, nearly 90% of adult patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in the US had one or more underlying diseases.

The most common were hypertension (49.7%), obesity (48.3%), chronic lung disease (34.6%), diabetes (28.3%), and cardiovascular disease (27.8%). These conditions were even more prevalent in deceased COVID-19 patients, according to data released by Louisiana, New York and New Jersey.

According to data released in February by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the U.S. obesity rate reached 42.4% during 2017-2018, the highest in history. One in six children are obese. Louisiana and Mississippi are among states with the highest obesity levels in the country. They both have a high number of deceased COVID-19 patients who were obese. In Mississippi, this included more than 40% of the COVID-19 patients who died.

Chronic inflammation is usually present in overweight people and can weaken the immune system, impairing the healing process and prolonging the recovery. Obesity is also associated with chronic diseases that raise the risk of death in patients with COVID-19, such as diabetes.

Does diabetes affect coronavirus risk?
When coronavirus gets into a body, there are four major factors that will decide the outcome: the total amount of virus, how much the virus replicates, how much of this replication happens on lung tissue and the amount of cytokines, molecules that help coordinate immune response.

Individuals with diabetes usually have a delayed immune response to the infection. That can cause overproduction of cytokines, triggering a "cytokine storm" or surge of activated immune cells into the lungs. It results in lung inflammation and fluid buildup that can lead to respiratory distress.

Studies show that people with diabetes tend to have higher levels of receptor ACE2. Normally, the ACE2 receptor splits two forms of a protein called angiotensin to keep blood pressure stable, among other things. However, researchers have demonstrated that coronavirus uses ACE2 to enter cells. This receptor is typically found deep in the body, in the lungs, kidney, heart, and gut. However, a recent study suggests that the receptor may be prevalent in nose cells, a key vector for COVID-19. Some scientists are evaluating the hypothesis that higher levels of this receptor may offer more entry points for coronavirus.

In an informal Twitter poll by @angioplastyorg, an online community of cardiologists, nearly half of the respondents reported that they saw a 40% to 60% reduction in admissions for heart attacks. A 40% reduction in emergency procedures for heart attacks was reported in Spain as well during the last week of March.

Another possible explanation for a reduction in the number of patients with strokes and heart disease is that people are misinterpreting heart attack symptoms for COVID-19.

"We want patients who are experiencing chest pains and trouble breathing, just like they would have maybe four months ago, to alert their doctor and seek care and not just sit it out at home," Parikh said.

For heart disease patients who develop COVID-19, the virus may not be as dangerous as the heart damage it may cause.

More than 1 in 5 patients might have developed heart damage as a result of COVID-19 in Wuhan, China, according to a study published in JAMA Cardiology. Patients who had heart disease before their coronavirus infections were much more likely to show heart damage afterward.
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Thanks to Covid 19, deaths caused by the flu, colds, diabetes, cancer, COPD, heart disease, old age, drownings, and car crashes have declined SIGNIFICANTLY. So, in a way, Covid has saved many, many lives.
However, due to the actions of politicians everywhere, deaths and injuries due to gun violence have increased. Still listed as covid deaths though.

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Eight children have died and 42 have been injured by gun violence in St. Louis through June 18 this year - KSDK News St. Louis
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That's also what I heard people saying, took about 15 minutes to find numbers online that contracting those facts.

These are total deaths, so you can easily see the spike. Doesn't matter how they classified each death the spike is there.
Can't BOTH be true; deaths have increased AND falsely identified as related to CCP virus?

I've seen graphs of pneumonia deaths drop precipitously compared to 2019.
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I know here in our county it's been that way. We have had falls onto concrete from 10+ feet which resulted in a covid death. An accidental gunshot which also resulted in a covid death. So, yes a lot of deaths have went down because of covid. It just might end up making everything else much safer.
I bet if there were a major air disaster and 200 people died they would all test positive for Covid 19.
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Can't BOTH be true; deaths have increased AND falsely identified as related to CCP virus?

I've seen graphs of pneumonia deaths drop precipitously compared to 2019.
Yep. Only one is true. Deaths from most other causes have fallen due to a safer, less stressful overall lifestyle.

Covid however is so bad it has more than compensated for that and is being undercounted, leaving thousands of more people dead while known, non-covid causes of death is still down.

Alternatively, there is a non-covid, non-reported killer at play in addition to everything else. Which is not so far fetched. Several deadly historical diseases spread in secret for years before any outcry was raised.
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