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Old 08-01-2020, 11:11 AM
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In many professions vaccines are required as a part of the employment process, the military and the medical field come to mind first. With covoid taking a huge bite out of the insurance companies profits you can bet they are going to start requiring pre-employment physicals and vaccinations. Companies will do whatever the insurance companies tell them to do and in turn, if you want to keep your job, so will you. You got used to giving your DNA aka drug test, you will get used to this.
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After watching the TV series "Snowpiercer", and noticing that in the rush to "cure" global warming, scientists developed a chemical called "CW7" and used B-52's to spray it into the atmosphere at very high altitude. It was supposed to lower the earth's temperature a few degrees and thus make global warming go away. Instead, it ended up freezing every life form on the planet killing everyone except the passengers on board the train.

Naturally the premise of a train circling the globe and thus preserving human life on planet earth is foolish, but the show is somewhat entertaining nevertheless.

I'm not so sure that I'm willing to subject myself to a vaccine that was hurried into development without the usual checks and balances that such substances normally receive. What happens if the long term effects of the vaccine end up being worse than the slight risk imposed by the Corona Virus?

How much to you trust the government to solve complex problems?
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Since the 1930s there has been a population control agenda, it is why Hitler got away with what he did for so long.
Long as it's not happening to you you don't care and that is how the world thinks.
That was called "Eugenics" and it was bare faced racism. Margaret Sanger, who promoted eugenics her entire life and whose writings were the foundation of Nazi theories on racial superiority/inferiority. Ms. Sanger was one terrible individual.
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vaccines are what is going to save mankind. I don't think they should be given out to anyone who wants one. there should be requirements. the person should have a work and education history or come from a family with a work and education history. I would not give them to those with mental illness. And I would only give 4 per family. When I look at the rioters and who is rioting, we are not doing proper population control and it shows. Look at China and where they are looking for food, to feed their massive population. It is time to make choices, this lifeboat is about full

Eugenicist much?
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They can't even fix the streets!
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That was called "Eugenics" and it was bare faced racism. Margaret Sanger, who promoted eugenics her entire life and whose writings were the foundation of Nazi theories on racial superiority/inferiority. Ms. Sanger was one terrible individual.

Bill Gates was raised by Eugenicist parents. He was literally taught selective breeding and population control in the home.

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They can't even fix the streets!
The streets are in great shape in my town.
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vaccines are what is going to save mankind. I don't think they should be given out to anyone who wants one. there should be requirements. the person should have a work and education history or come from a family with a work and education history. I would not give them to those with mental illness. And I would only give 4 per family. When I look at the rioters and who is rioting, we are not doing proper population control and it shows. Look at China and where they are looking for food, to feed their massive population. It is time to make choices, this lifeboat is about full
I won't be lining up for any rushed vaccine, but I WILL stand in line with my rifle for a shot at anyone who would commit murder in this way.

And yes, I can make the shot while wearing a gas mask.
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The Beginning of a Cashless World and Forced Vaccinations.

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Africa to Become Testing Ground for “Trust Stamp” Vaccine Record and Payment System

A new biometric identity platform partnered with the Gates-funded GAVI vaccine alliance and Mastercard will launch in West Africa and combine COVID-19 vaccinations, cashless payments, and potential law enforcement applications.

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A cashless society would require a constitutional amendment.

Of course, so would the vast majority if everything else the government does.
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vaccines are what is going to save mankind. I don't think they should be given out to anyone who wants one. there should be requirements. the person should have a work and education history or come from a family with a work and education history. I would not give them to those with mental illness. And I would only give 4 per family. When I look at the rioters and who is rioting, we are not doing proper population control and it shows. Look at China and where they are looking for food, to feed their massive population. It is time to make choices, this lifeboat is about full
Glad you won't be running the vaccine program. So are a lot of the disabled and those with mental health issues on THIS forum, although I doubt they will speak up.
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My chip is in is the ammo, they are welcomed to it. I will not be getting into the boxcar.
Indeed. My 50 BMG says otherwise.
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In many professions vaccines are required as a part of the employment process, the military and the medical field come to mind first. With covoid taking a huge bite out of the insurance companies profits you can bet they are going to start requiring pre-employment physicals and vaccinations. Companies will do whatever the insurance companies tell them to do and in turn, if you want to keep your job, so will you. You got used to giving your DNA aka drug test, you will get used to this.
No. No will not.
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Glad you won't be running the vaccine program. So are a lot of the disabled and those with mental health issues on THIS forum, although I doubt they will speak up.
After 30 years in social programs working with America's trash, I am the one you want in charge
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A cashless society would require a constitutional amendment.
Cashlessness won’t happen by decree or Constitutional amendment. It is happening due to individual decisions made by individual consumers and businesses. Cash is inconvenient and it’s use is waning rapidly. It may never go away completely. Who knows, maybe skinny jeans wearing hipsters will resurrect dollar bills like they have vinyl albums and Polaroid cameras.
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Yep, cash is a PITA for businesses...employees steal it, robbers take it, tax audits happen much more frequently with businesses that handle large amounts of cash.

As for a future Covid vaccine as other posters note you won't get hired without having taken it which is a huge incentive for most people to take it.

It's even possible holdouts would be considered carriers a la "Typhoid Mary" so they'd be essentially quarantined in their homes...they better plan on working from home & getting everything they need delivered.
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A CREDIT CARD system and a CASHLESS SOCIETY are to very different things.

Obviously, there some here who do not understand the difference or the dangers of a “ cashless society”. In a truly cashless society, you won’t even be able to go to a yard sale and buy a Frisbee without government approval and the government will immediately charge tax on the Frisbee. In a cashless society, government will have the ability to control EVERY aspect of your life. In a cashless society, a total stranger will sit at a keyboard somewhere and have total control over ALL your purchases.....transportation, food, housing, medical...EVERYTHING.
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If things go cashless many will barter, and to beat that people will be forced to use ration stamps that limit what you can buy person as during WWII .then these were traded like Disney adventure passes different rides had a different priced ticket and we traded them as kids for the rides we preferred.
People traded fuel "ration stamps" for cigarette stamps and food stamps and you couldn't buy any thing without them , retailers were held accountable for they inventory and stamp balances. the money alone was not enough to purchase, you had to have the appropriate stamp as well.
The ATM card will likely be the way of the future and government will have full access to your accounts and likely see the same things happen as in Greece when the government took what they wanted when they wanted.
Isn't socialism wonderful?
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The government interest in moving to a cashless society is the ability to track all purchases. This means that all gun sales (inclusive of private non-barter sales) may be tracked. Likewise, all ammunition sales are trackable. So also is the purchase of long term storage food along with all other commodities.

The question is, how much do you want the government to know about you and your family?

On the other hand, gold is nearly $2,000/oz.
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In a cashless society, a total stranger will sit at a keyboard somewhere and have total control over ALL your purchases.....transportation, food, housing, medical...EVERYTHING.
There’s no evidence anything like this is on the horizon. In apps like Venmo, Square and ApplePay nobody is in a position to approve or control your purchase. Most often, the third party never knows why you’re transferring funds.
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