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Old 01-13-2020, 02:33 PM
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The contractor who was murdered was a United States citizen. "Newly minted" or otherwise a response was necessary for the crossing of President Trump's "red line," i.e. you kill an American citizen and you pay severely.

You are as disingenuous as the people you mention in your last paragraph. However, we didn't expect anything different from you and your cronies on the boards.
Either:

A. Muslims are terrible people who want to subvert all things non Muslim to rule over the world by any means necessary from devilish tricks, taqiyya and jihad.

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B. Muslims, once they touch US soil become American as mom and apple pie and all the rhetoric, some typed on this very discussion boards, becomes null and void.
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Satan sent Muhammad to establish hell on earth. I do not love Satan. I do not love Islam. One cannot love what is the antipathy of God, His Son, the Holy Spirit, and Gods Word. To do so is illogical.
It would appear that CAT forgot that three "SIPS" of communion wine is the norm, not three "BOTTLES." LOL

I never thought I would say this, but I agree with Palmetto Tree on this one. No further comment!
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Either:

A. Muslims are terrible people who want to subvert all things non Muslim to rule over the world by any means necessary from devilish tricks, taqiyya and jihad.

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B. Muslims, once they touch US soil become American as mom and apple pie and all the rhetoric, some typed on this very discussion boards, becomes null and void.
Both. And it is at a switch Off/On distance both options for Muslims. It is the nature of their religion.
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It would appear that CAT forgot that three "SIPS" of communion wine is the norm, not three "BOTTLES." LOL

I never thought I would say this, but I agree with Palmetto Tree on this one. No further comment!
I am sure that if you think more and more at this you will be in agreement with me.

Each human being is a son of God. Cain was not let to die by God but was protected even if he was the first murderer and maybe God should have made an example of him. But there is a lesson in the fact God let him alive. He loved him. He still does. He did the same with Adam. He gave him a second chance. All of us have a second chance until we will be judged at the Universal Judgement.
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Either:

A. Muslims are terrible people who want to subvert all things non Muslim to rule over the world by any means necessary from devilish tricks, taqiyya and jihad.

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B. Muslims, once they touch US soil become American as mom and apple pie and all the rhetoric, some typed on this very discussion boards, becomes null and void.
Obviously, it's choice A. The Ilhan Omars and Rashida Tlaibs have proven choice B incorrect.

Be that as it may, the murder of any American citizen by Muslims or any group crosses President Trump's red line and retaliation is not optional.
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I am sure that if you think more and more at this you will be in agreement with me.

Each human being is a son of God. Cain was not let to die by God but was protected even if he was the first murderer and maybe God should have made an example of him. But there is a lesson in the fact God let him alive. He loved him. He still does. He did the same with Adam. He gave him a second chance. All of us have a second chance until we will be judged at the Universal Judgement.
Cat, you've surprised a number of people here, including me, but you are dead-on right!

Jesus NEVER taught us to hate people. He taught us to judge actions. We are certainly expected to fight against evil and stop it when we can. Yet the person is still a creation of God, and can repent.

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A little story... Last year we had a midwest relation college kid spend the night with us during a road trip, and she had a friend with her who was Muslim. They both were complete Valley Girls (or whatever it's called in Ohio), and during the conversation, her friend admitted to having had to read early on from the Quran and attend a Mosque, but there was no doubt in my mind that she was as far from their fundamental beliefs as I am.
I'd also venture that there are many, many Iranians who have no interest in spreading Sharia Law throughout the world.

So anyone who professes true belief in the Words of Jesus had better step back a bit and do some re-reading. We have no problem with accusing Muslims of following all the rules of Muhammed.

We should be accused of doing the same with the commands of Jesus.

Carry on, Brother!
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Cat, you've surprised a number of people here, including me, but you are dead-on right!

Jesus NEVER taught us to hate people. He taught us to judge actions. We are certainly expected to fight against evil and stop it when we can. Yet the person is still a creation of God, and can repent.
Wish I could "thank" this a few more times!

So right about our friend Cat. Never heard him with such amazing inspired words!

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Each human being is a son of God.


Rom 8:14* For as many as are led by the Spirit of Elohim, these are sons of Elohim.*

Rom 8:19* For the intense longing of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of Elohim.

1Jn 3:1* Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.*
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I am sure that if you think more and more at this you will be in agreement with me.

Each human being is a son of God. Cain was not let to die by God but was protected even if he was the first murderer and maybe God should have made an example of him. But there is a lesson in the fact God let him alive. He loved him. He still does. He did the same with Adam. He gave him a second chance. All of us have a second chance until we will be judged at the Universal Judgement.

God does love all (Grace is love without prerequisites), but prophecy is clear that Iran stokes the anger of God. We know that it is the leadership of Iran that stokes the anger of God.

Elam... Jeremiah Ch. 49. God is fiercely angry to the point that he destroys the kings and princes.

Elam is on ancient maps, but geographically is Iran.


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Wish I could "thank" this a few more times!

So right about our friend Cat. Never heard him with such amazing inspired words!

WTG CAT
No one ever said to "hate" individual people. However, those who follow the evil that is Islam are part of that evil. Until they see Islam for what it truly is and renounce it they have to be viewed as the enemy.

I don't say hate each person, but do NOT drop your guard around them and do NOT trust them. Each Muslim is part of the evil whole of Islam and be prepared to physically fight them.

Cat's "amazing inspired words" notwithstanding, Islam is the enemy of not only Christianity, but all humankind. I stand by my assessment that ISLAM IS A MURDER CULT DISGUISED AS A RELIGION.
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No one ever said to "hate" individual people. However, those who follow the evil that is Islam are part of that evil. Until they see Islam for what it truly is and renounce it they have to be viewed as the enemy.

I don't say hate each person, but do NOT drop your guard around them and do NOT trust them. Each Muslim is part of the evil whole of Islam and be prepared to physically fight them.

Cat's "amazing inspired words" notwithstanding, Islam is the enemy of not only Christianity, but all humankind. I stand by my assessment that ISLAM IS A MURDER CULT DISGUISED AS A RELIGION.
100% agree Batko!

Nothing you have said that I don't agree with. But I also agree with Cat who is making a much larger point that we are to love them as well AND there is the possibility they could change.

The fact so many are breathing is an indication God hasn't given up on them. Thankfully many didn't give up on the Apostle Paul who killed Christians and held the coat to those who murdered Stephen.

I think Cat added a much needed balance to the discussion, I know it hit home with me.

(BTW...did you see Trump and wife being cheered at last nights football game with LSU and Clemson? They chanted USA, USA, USA when the President and wife walked out onto the field...truly amazing!)

WINNING!!!!!!!
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...(BTW...did you see Trump and wife being cheered at last nights football game with LSU and Clemson? They chanted USA, USA, USA when the President and wife walked out onto the field...truly amazing!)

WINNING!!!!!!!
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Several folks have made some really good points about Islam. America and the rest of the civilized world have always had enemies. Nazi Germany, the soul crushing Socialist/Communist and now Islam. No real surprise.

After thinking about this I began to realize the most frustrating aspect for me. It's not that we have these enemies but that so many in Europe and America seem to race to embrace them and their cultures which are pure evil.

Americans should be unified not in their hatred of Muslim people but rather our total rejection of a system of terror and murder that harms the Muslims people as well.

Jesus taught us to love our enemies, Islam stated teachings are just the opposite of that principle of Christ.
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Just amazing!

That whole scene brings tears to my eyes. Things are turning so fast. We have the people of Iran finally standing up against their own evil regime when democrats cursed Trump for standing up against them and causing instability. Once again Trump has been proven right and democrats look weak and dead wrong.

We have Trump poll numbers climbing daily and meanwhile Joe Biden holds rallies in room G in a local small town library with six people. Yes...WE ARE WINNING!!!
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No one ever said to "hate" individual people. However, those who follow the evil that is Islam are part of that evil. Until they see Islam for what it truly is and renounce it they have to be viewed as the enemy.

I don't say hate each person, but do NOT drop your guard around them and do NOT trust them. Each Muslim is part of the evil whole of Islam and be prepared to physically fight them.

Cat's "amazing inspired words" notwithstanding, Islam is the enemy of not only Christianity, but all humankind. I stand by my assessment that ISLAM IS A MURDER CULT DISGUISED AS A RELIGION.
100% right. Our brothers are addicted to a drug. You cannot let your guard down even if it is your dear child that is addicted to the drug. He is still your child. God will Judge our love and our wisdom both working together. Our ancestors had both, Saint Stephen the Great (15th century) won 48 victories against the Ottomans from 50 battles. He built 52 monasteries. He gave all the glory to God and took the 2 defeats as measure of his sins.

That's why I like Trump.
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https://www.foxnews.com/world/irania...ristian-pastor

Regardless of how you perceive them, remember how they perceive you.
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God will take care of his martyrs. This pastor probably prayed for his enemies and killers. THEY are in need of mercy.

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After thinking about this I began to realize the most frustrating aspect for me. It's not that we have these enemies but that so many in Europe and America seem to race to embrace them and their cultures which are pure evil.
I think the main reason those in the West embrace Islam is the false ideology of multiculturalism. NOT EVERYTHING IS EQUAL. NOT ALL CULTURES ARE EQUAL.

Tied to that is the denial that evil exists. Sure, they may accept Hitler and the Nazis as evil. But they cannot bring themselves to admit evil exists today.
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Tied to that is the denial that evil exists. Sure, they may accept Hitler and the Nazis as evil. But they cannot bring themselves to admit evil exists today.
Isn't that odd if not bizarre.

I know the seething hatred for President Trump and his supporters (us) is something they don't seem to hold back from calling evil. At each Trump rally I have attended and have seen this foaming at the mouth hatred. I got a tiny glimpse of what it might have been like for Jews in Germany in the 1930's.
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Cool.
I asked you a simple question about the laying down of arms. Are you going to answer it?
I'd like to see the answer to this as well!

What would happen if every Muslim laid down their arms? What would happen if America and Israel laid down their arms?
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