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Old 01-13-2020, 02:37 PM
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VA could be loss cause, a lot of folks talk big there but have gone PC now. They even watch their 1st Amendment slip away.
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Except the action probably should have been dismissed for lack of jurisdiction, because Scott was not a citizen, nor a citizen or subject of a foreign state.
Anticipating your protest was why I also included this quote:

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The decision also argued that the Missouri Compromise legislation — passed to balance the power between slave and non-slave states — was unconstitutional. In effect, this meant that Congress had no power to prevent the spread of slavery

All so let me point out that what I was attempting disprove was this:
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The "courts" didn't make those decisions.
Congress did.

Court did, proof already provided.
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Have at it - we need more funds

https://lpvirginia.org/recall-senator-****-saslaw/

*** = d.i.c.k.

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The Libertarian Party of Virginia alleges that Senator **** Saslaw is misusing his power to propose SB16, which purports to criminalize hundreds of thousands of lawful firearm owners for an improper political purpose. We want to preemptively deescalate potential conflict resulting from this legislation by taking the issue to the courts, where the Second Amendment will inevitably be reinforced. Our law enforcement officers should not have to decide between their neighbor and Saslaw’s unconstitutional law. No human being should be imprisoned for their right to bear arms.

We need 5,000 signatures of registered voters from the 35th Senate district and $20,000 to get this petition to court. In the name of Liberty…
Hmm. Seems D.I.C.K withdrew his bill yesterday. I wonder if he noticed the recall?

But this is just a bait and switch as we all know. The real battle is HB961
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..Seems D.I.C.K withdrew ...
..That's some Grade A satire, right there, 'tell ya..

'D.I.C.K.'... Hmm.. Umm, 'Demonrat Inbreed Constitution Killer', right?

...Fight on..
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Cujet rightly posted in another thread that even though he withdrew his bill, there is a more restrictive bill in the house. HB961. My opinion, he did it for show, knowing there is a backstop in the pipeline.
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Anticipating your protest was why I also included this quote:

All so let me point out that what I was attempting disprove was this:

Court did, proof already provided.
Except that I did not offer a definitive statement upon such. Please reread the post, especially the now highlighted word that indicates a mere, albeit educated, opinion about the Dred Scott matter.

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Except the action probably should have been dismissed for lack of jurisdiction, because Scott was not a citizen, nor a citizen or subject of a foreign state.
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Except that I did not offer a definitive statement upon such. Please reread the post, especially the now highlighted word that indicates a mere, albeit educated, opinion about the Dred Scott matter.
Whether you want to cop to the opinion or not the second section covers my original intent.
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Whether you want to cop to the opinion or not the second section covers my original intent.
I didn't, and still don't disagree with it. I merely offered an opinion by expounding upon the subject by stating that in the face of the law in effect of the time, the action should have, by strictly as a matter of law, been immediately dismissed by the district court, as well as every other court within the line of appeal.
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I’m in Virginia, but I’ll be out of town on the 20th. It’s almost to the point these Nazi “representatives” need to be physically removed from office for violation of the 2A and there are laws in VA against “stealing” property in excess of $500.00. Representatives should fear the voters and they need to taste some of that fear…I can’t believe VA let this happen first, but if the Supreme Court doesn’t get involved, they are a threat to the Constitution.

Those of us not from VA, should pay close attention as this is the playbook of the Socialists and they're going to spread this disease to every state...I hope VA fights back, even if it turns kinetic.

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I think this should be the philosophy of those going to the rally on the 20th.

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I’m in Virginia, but I’ll be out of town on the 20th. It’s almost to the point these Nazi “representatives” need to be physically removed from office for violation of the 2A and there are laws in VA against “stealing” property in excess of $500.00. Representatives should fear the voters and they need to taste some of that fear…I can’t believe VA let this happen first, but if the Supreme Court doesn’t get involved, they are a threat to the Constitution.



Those of us not from VA, should pay close attention as this is the playbook of the Socialists and they're going to spread this disease to every state...I hope VA fights back, even if it turns kinetic.



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I wonder what would happen if some (just a few) average citizens asked for a meeting. On their way in the building they ask a couple LEOs to please follow them. Upon arrival they turn to the LEOs and state they would like to make a citizens arrest on a treasonous government official(s). Maybe have some media in tow to boot....
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Has this been posted yet??



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Yes.

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VA could be loss cause, a lot of folks talk big there but have gone PC now. They even watch their 1st Amendment slip away.
I love you NSA guys so which ABC soup can is under your desk , your mom is under mine. S/FI!
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Then you're not reading it correctly.

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A semi-automatic center-fire pistol that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has one of the following characteristics:
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A semi-automatic center-fire rifle that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine
Except you left off part of the rifle quote, both the rifle and the pistol regulations include the wording "and has one of the following characteristics:".

As proposed, if your center fire rifle can accept a removable magazine of any size, and also has one (or more) of the quoted evil features, it is an assault firearm. If it can accept a removable magazine but does NOT have the evil features then it is not an assault firearm. In CA gun culture this last configuration would be called a "featureless" weapon.

The exemplar Remington 742 is a semi-automatic, center fire, rifle capable of accepting a removable magazine. This meets the first check. However, it does not (in factory form) have any of the defined evil features, and so it would not be illegal. It is not a semi-automatic, center fire, capable of accepting a removable magazine and also having one of the evil characteristics.

The same can be said of the Colt model 1911 .45 ACP pistol. It is a semi-automatic, center fire, pistol capable of accepting removable magazines. However it meets none of the other requirements and so would be legal.

This is the issue that has existed in California for some time. To own and use an AR rifle it must either be "featureless" (no evil features such as pistol grip, telescoping stock, forward vertical grip, etc) or it must not have a removable magazine.

California has it slightly better than the proposed VA bill. On a rifle we can replace our flash hiders (illegal) with compensators (legal) and be good to go with a threaded barrel, the VA bill will not allow that kind of thing. The VA bill seems to say that anything threaded onto the barrel, or even a threaded barrel by itself, is evil. CA only says that about pistols.

Just as an aside, for those who think "it can't happen in my state", what do you think the VA gun owners thought 3 years ago? No state is lost, no state should be forgotten. It is worth working for gun rights in every state, even if all seems lost, because if you do not stand up for all states gun rights, eventually it will be your state taking the unthinkable steps of outlawing your firearms.

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