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Old 01-13-2020, 04:26 PM
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First, it is important to note that large antennas on a house will be obvious and possibly make it a target. That cannot be helped. In small towns, that would probably be a minor problem, which is why I decided to not worry about that.
I currently have three main antennas on my house.
TV antenna tops out at 68 feet above the ground
Dual Band Ham Radio antenna tops out at 40 feet above the ground.
Citizen Band Radio antenna tops out at 50 feet above the ground.

Without cable TV, I still get 7 channels in this small town/rural area even though I am in a valley between two hills.
With the Ham Radio, I can talk to anyone in town. Hitting the repeater, I can talk all over the world.
The CB radio allows me to talk to someone with a handheld CB radio anywhere in town, including in a back garage with a steel roof, and with truckers on the Interstate past the far side of town.

Next summer, I plan to add some more antennas and perhaps raise the existing ones.
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My T.V. antenna was less than $20, it's mounted head high on the side of the house & I get nearly 30 channels, all the ones available over the air in my area. https://www.amazon.com/Mohu-Paper-th...dp/B00JC9J2NQ/

I don't have any big antenna for comms other than a 2' foldable for my HT's. I do plan on getting something for the comms, but I don't want a huge antenna in the yard or on my house. There are several huge HAM antennas within a few block radius of me & they stick out like a sore thumb. I thought about getting one that I could lay flat & tilt up when needed or even rigging up one with a large weather balloon to lift the antenna at least a bit above rooftop level. I'm also about a block to 1 1/2 blocks from a large commercial antenna that I'm not sure is even in use anymore as the communication company that used to own the building is no longer there. In a longer term SHTF I might be able to find a way to put that to use.

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In a SHTF grid-down situation the repeater may not be able to get you out worldwide. Being in a valley I don't think HF beams would help unless the towers put them above the tops of the surrounding hills or mountain ranges. Maybe try some dipoles on HF if your license allows. There are also stealth antennas hidden in attics for dipoles if hiding them is a concern. From what I know of them they allow operators in certain areas, like HOAs, to still operate, but they have limited performance capabilities. Local comms are important, but so is long range. If people in California, Oregon, or Washington can alert you in Wyoming that a severe storm is heading your way take it rather than wait to find out on your own. Alert your neighbors and get some vittles in the process.
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If you've got a large tree close to your house, you can put a lightweight pulley near the top and use it to raise an antenna. The taller the tree, the taller the antenna can be. I put up one for my mom that's made of 1" conduit sleeved over 3/4" conduit that's seventy feet high. The pulley supports most of the weight of the system, and you can rotate the antenna from the ground. One piece of rope is attached to the pole and threaded through the pulley and another piece is tied to the top of the pole to keep the pole under control while you're raising and lowering the antenna.
My mom's neighbors cut down their big trees so they wouldn't have to rake leaves, but now they're paying $100 for cable TV just to get the same channels my mom gets for free. I've got the same setup at my place. Trees are good, they save you money on AC because they shade the house.
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Trees are also good for dipole wire antennas. I am fortunate to have tall trees on the property so my main antenna is around 100 feet above the ground. Don't forget to properly ground everything - towers, antennas, and equipment. You will not only be safer, but your radios will work better. Just my 2 cents.
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First, it is important to note that large antennas on a house will be obvious and possibly make it a target.
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Why and for why? All I could see is people looking to you four answers from out of the local area. I canít imagine anyone wanting to destroy the capability except for some sort of open warfare. TPTB know your address of you have a liscense.
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Why? They are obvious and different from the norm. Even if the person seeing them doesn't think or know why an antenna may be an issue to them.

Also anyone half smart looking to infiltrate the area after a major event would see antennas and realise you have a communications capability that may be used to inform the surrounding area of activity.
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Why and for why? All I could see is people looking to you four answers from out of the local area. I canít imagine anyone wanting to destroy the capability except for some sort of open warfare. TPTB know your address of you have a liscense.
I agree, but so many don't think with logic. Especially in times of panic. During Katrina people were stealing shoes. I hope their kids found them tasty.
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The thing is there is certain reputation around ham operators of being people who are also prepared. It's exactly the kind of thing I think would be targeted in SHTF.
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