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Old 06-02-2020, 10:13 AM
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So do we address him as Chairman Trump now? Secretary Trump? Maybe just plain comrade.
Would you call George Washington same?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion
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. Washington himself rode at the head of an army to suppress the insurgency


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https://www.rollcall.com/2020/06/01/...nate-protests/

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President George H.W. Bush invoked the Insurrection Act then in response to the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles and surrounding areas.

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Old 06-02-2020, 10:43 AM
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Protest? fine. That is your absolute right as an American and should be protected.

RIOTING and BURNING in the streets, however, is NOT civil disobedience, you are NOT emulating Thoreau.

Unfortunately, I believe that armed conflict is inevitable. we have a nation split between rich and poor(although that gap was closing the less unemployment there was before the fake pandemic), manufactured and funded riots, and two populations. One believes in working for what you have and owning it utterly, the other is the gimmie-dat culture, of ALL colors.

Add to this the fact that most (NOT all, but most) black people don't like white people on sight. I work with mostly black guys, and it took me a long time to be at the level where we can have open conversations about race relations and reform. But they have warned me flat out, because I am trying to find a less expensive place to live, DON'T move into the wrong neighborhood, and the meaning is clear.

A quarter of the population is on some form of anti-depressant that can cause irrational, psychotic behavior if suddenly stopped (think THAT was an accident?).

EVERYONE is armed to the teeth.

If we organize, we win. If we don't, we lose. that simple.

If the dems want you corralled in cities, get out of them.
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Old 06-02-2020, 11:34 AM
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Not prtesters LOOTERS!
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Old 06-02-2020, 11:41 AM
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One of my hunting buddies was activated for riot control. He was an E3 and had his men. they were armed and had ammo. He would not admit to firing any shots but he and his men took a few disrespectful rioters aside and taught them a lesson in respect. I'm not opposed to teaching respect or returning fire.
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Old 06-02-2020, 11:44 AM
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When JFK had the national guard protect black students going to school it was under the same authority. He may say military, but he means national guard.
he specifically said 101st airborne.. If it was national guard, no problem
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he specifically said 101st airborne.. If it was national guard, no problem
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/l...a-0407d089b8e5

The DC National Guard was already called up, it's just too small to help. The thing is, DC isn't a state so its National Guard is tiny. It's about the size of one brigade where most states have numerous brigades or entire divisions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distri...National_Guard

Normally the DC police would be responsible for stopping lawbreakers, but since DC is a Democrat run city and uses liberal policies of enforcement, they're obviously ineffective and in fact aren't even trying to be effective. Just like other liberal cities, they're letting looters and rioters commit their crimes and insurrection activities unabated.

So since the DC guard is small and the local police aren't going to do anything, there isn't much recourse left.
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Just watched Pres Trump Addressing The Nation. He is putting a stop by calling out the military.

Live: President Donald Trump Makes Statement Amid Nationwide Policy Brutality Protests | NBC News - YouTube
No, he didn't. He said he'd confront the RIOTERS and LOOTERS with force. Not protestors.
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Not prtesters LOOTERS!
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No, he didn't. He said he'd confront the RIOTERS and LOOTERS with force. Not protestors.
Y'all are right, I didn't think about the actual wording. It has been changed. Thank you for bringing that to my attention.
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He really just needs to send a Seal team to pay a visit to Soros.....

You would have to did it cartel style and take out his entire family since they would inherit the money and businesses and have the same mindset.
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And nothing will be done about the people funding, organizing, and inciting these riots? Namely members of the media and the DNC being behind this as well.
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So do we address him as Chairman Trump now? Secretary Trump? Maybe just plain comrade.
What did we call LBJ when he sent troops to the Chicago riots? Mayor Daley did such a fine job in '68 that he served as mayor until his death in 1976
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Old 06-02-2020, 05:30 PM
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This is the part which has me most concerned:

"If a city or state refuses to take the actions necessary to defend the life and property of their residents, then I will deploy the United States military and quickly solve the problem for them."

That doesn't sound like the Insurrection Act, which requires state governors to request military intervention before troops may be sent to the state.

Either it's bluster or he's winging it and expecting the military to play along.
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Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.
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(1)so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or
(2)opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.
In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.
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He knows he can't do half of what he said he would, he is bluffing. Then again, he might not know he can't do half of what he said, in which case he is incompetent. Take your pick.
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Old 06-02-2020, 05:43 PM
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they're trying not to be immortalized like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRE9vMBBe10

or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MuhFxaT7zo

if the authorities are not very careful, they will be immortalized for one moment or mistake, really … my guess is that's what the rioters are pushing for and trying to accomplish.
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Old 06-02-2020, 05:51 PM
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He knows he can't do half of what he said he would, he is bluffing. Then again, he might not know he can't do half of what he said, in which case he is incompetent. Take your pick.
In every case so far he's done what's constitutional, regardless of what is said. That's why he wins every constitutional challenge once he gets out of the liberal make stuff up as we go areas.

My guess is whatever he does follows this pattern. RBG is probably getting tired of him being right.
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Old 06-02-2020, 06:11 PM
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In every case so far he's done what's constitutional, regardless of what is said. That's why he wins every constitutional challenge once he gets out of the liberal make stuff up as we go areas.

My guess is whatever he does follows this pattern. RBG is probably getting tired of him being right.
In which case, he won't do any of the things that he said that he knows are unconstitutional. In other words, he is bluffing. I guess that is better than being incompetent.
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I agree... Soros is behind almost all of this. Get rid of him and much of this will go away. He is hiding behind so many organizations funding them and cannot be found connected to them.

ANTIFA arrest should all be mug shots and finger prints and sooner or later the dots will connect. Prosectute and jail time. That will get many off the streets.

I think 00 Rubber Buckshot will work well until then.



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He really just needs to send a Seal team to pay a visit to Soros.....

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Old 06-02-2020, 07:09 PM
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So no president has actually done what he said? Maybe we should narrow it down to, how many have since FDR put Americans in camps "just in case". Trump should never go full Democrat.
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I just heard on Fox News that the Pentagon is sending Army infantry to DC.
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Old 06-02-2020, 09:18 PM
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I just heard on Fox News that the Pentagon is sending Army infantry to DC.
Yep, Seen Sean Hannity report breaking news that the Secretary of Defense has authorized an infantry battalion of about 16,000 troops into the Washington DC area. It's going to get interesting now.
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