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Old 04-16-2020, 10:47 AM
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I don't have smartphone. I got a $85 a year non-smart TracFone from Walmart and seldom use it. I got a laptop. I can use the libraries internet in the parking lot for free. If I hit the lotto I will buy a smartphone.
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Apple & Google are planning to use covid as an excuse to have 'built-in' tracing feature in their phones to track all humans and report to government. They are not even hiding anymore. using fear to control you and watch you every second.

Everything is done on a smartphone these days..calling cab, ordering food, paying someone, receiving text messages etc minus the actual voice calls.

If we had to completely reject these tech overlords from existing in our life and live without a smartphone, is it possible?

We could still use internet for banking, shopping, emails etc...but when it comes to 'mobile lifestyle', can one survive without a smartphone day-to-day life?

By "survive" i mean have the ability to live a normal life, be employed, have a family, have friends etc, but without the spying tool in your pocket.

I do it every day!
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I miss those phones. Had each model at one point in time in the early 90s. Really liked both. Especially the bag phone.
Wasn't that the early to mid-'80s as in 1989 Motorola came out with the Startac semi flip phone. I was working in a Mobile store early 90's and the first Digital came out in 93. Then all the phones tried to become smaller than a pencil not really but there was a craze for who had the best smallest phone.
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I'm thinking about going with one of these

https://www.google.com/url?q=https:/...vYc7OzC6QtIGji

It's STILL a smartphone, but at least you can leave all the surveillance crap off. Not counting the intrinsic traceability of any cell phone, obviously.

My 3 remaining grandparents require a lot of care that my parents aren't always able to provide, so I need to remain available. There's a few games I like, I like the camera functionality, and the ability to access the internet from anywhere is nice, but I could abandon that easily enough. I just can't be off the comms grid until I run out of old people, to put it morbidly.
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I have a regular cell phone, not a smart phone. It can be tracked like any other so if I am going somewhere where I value my privacy, I shut it off.
Turning off a cell phone wont stop it from communicating with cell towers. I am not even sure if removing the battery will stop the communication, probably but not positive.

Get yourself several layers of heavy duty aluminum foil to wrap around your phone to cut off the signal when you want privacy.
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I've never owned a smart phone, so I'm going with yes.
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Turning off a cell phone wont stop it from communicating with cell towers. I am not even sure if removing the battery will stop the communication, probably but not positive.

Get yourself several layers of heavy duty aluminum foil to wrap around your phone to cut off the signal when you want privacy.
Do you have any proof whatsoever to back this up?
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We had a party line when I was growing up. Still remember the different rings.

First cell phone I ever carried was a bag phone, provided by work.

Had an old Nokia analog phone that got cloned once. That was fun. When the bill came, I had made calls to Brazil and China!

Finally got my first smart phone about 5 years ago. And even though I am using it now to thumb-type this message, I could live without it.

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Got you beat. As a child we had a party line phone. When I got married moved to Canada as hubby was working for the Corp of Engineers USA dredging on Lake Erie. Rented a small house there and had a phone with a hand crank. Our ring was 3 long 2 short. They still had margarine that you had to mix. Small bead in it squash the bead and mix in the big plastic bag it came in. Those were the days. lol
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Got you beat. As a child we had a party line phone. When I got married moved to Canada as hubby was working for the Corp of Engineers USA dredging on Lake Erie. Rented a small house there and had a phone with a hand crank. Our ring was 3 long 2 short. They still had margarine that you had to mix. Small bead in it squash the bead and mix in the big plastic bag it came in. Those were the days. lol
REALLY worth a listen: the Ridiculous History podcast from February 21, 2018 entitled:

How Farmers Built a Barbed Wire Phone Network.

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Turning off a cell phone wont stop it from communicating with cell towers. I am not even sure if removing the battery will stop the communication, probably but not positive.

Get yourself several layers of heavy duty aluminum foil to wrap around your phone to cut off the signal when you want privacy.
Why even have one if you are going to goto those lengths to have "privacy"?
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Why even have one if you are going to goto those lengths to have "privacy"?
It's speculation on that person's part. That's all.
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I only have a old Trac phone that you buy time cards for. I don't turn it on till I need to make a call. For internet I use free wifi on a garage sale purchased Kindle fire. I still use a transistor radio that picks up 3 country stations.
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They would be board to death following me around 😳
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Most smart phones these days....you can not remove the battery

If it worries you so much....don’t have a cell phone at all. Nothing. Not even a “burner” phone.
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Apple & Google are planning to use covid as an excuse to have 'built-in' tracing feature in their phones to track all humans and report to government. They are not even hiding anymore. using fear to control you and watch you every second.

Everything is done on a smartphone these days..calling cab, ordering food, paying someone, receiving text messages etc minus the actual voice calls.

If we had to completely reject these tech overlords from existing in our life and live without a smartphone, is it possible?

We could still use internet for banking, shopping, emails etc...but when it comes to 'mobile lifestyle', can one survive without a smartphone day-to-day life?

By "survive" i mean have the ability to live a normal life, be employed, have a family, have friends etc, but without the spying tool in your pocket.

LOL
I barely use my flip-phone. Ain't nobody tracking me...
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Do you have any proof whatsoever to back this up?
It's been 10 years since I retired but I know that cell phones of known bad guys could be pinged by the cell phone provider to determine its location. Some times they could even determine the exact room inside the house. And yes, even if the phone was turned off. This was used on a very limited bases (back then) by the detective bureau to locate a dangerous person (murder suspect) or someone who was reported kidnapped. I recall at least one occasion where the kidnap victim was forced to turn the phone off, but they were still located by pinging the victims cell phone.

Sorry, my personal experience is 10 years old, but I doubt the technology went away.
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Dont have a smart phone and never have. Have phone at home that was landline until last August when I went with consumer cellular. It still sits in the charging cradle - answer machine thingy on the table. I did get a flip phone when joining consumer cellular but it stays in the saddle bag on the bike and has only been turned on maybe twice. Once to activate and once to see if it was still charged. It's for emergency use only.

My life is good and Im at peace with no smartphone and Im not being tracked. The only time I even think I might like one is when Im sitting somewhere like a doctors office and such having to kill time and I see everyone playing on one.
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[can one] "survive" i mean have the ability to live a normal life, be employed, have a family, have friends etc, but without the spying tool in your pocket. ???
Absolutely. But don't forget we used land lines before cell. And 10 minute calls from your associates, to your home or business placed you at those locations.

When grandma died, I found phone bills from the 1950's-60's! There was interesting info there, and I certainly could tell when they were home and made long distance calls, including "long distance calls" to our home in the neighboring town!

Don't think for a minute that phone "data" is something new.
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It's been 10 years since I retired but I know that cell phones of known bad guys could be pinged by the cell phone provider to determine its location. Some times they could even determine the exact room inside the house. And yes, even if the phone was turned off. This was used on a very limited bases (back then) by the detective bureau to locate a dangerous person (murder suspect) or someone who was reported kidnapped. I recall at least one occasion where the kidnap victim was forced to turn the phone off, but they were still located by pinging the victims cell phone.

Sorry, my personal experience is 10 years old, but I doubt the technology went away.
A turned off cell phone cannot be tracked as it does not ping any towers. I have been involved in cases where we are trying to get cell phone locations and have not been able to get a location for a week when the phone was turned off. And if it is being tracked by cell towers alone it is generally a much larger area then you describe, even going through the cell provider.
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