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Old 04-08-2020, 10:19 AM
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Here is an interesting video where this fellow gives what he calls a "final warning," worth checking out.
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I've said it more than once, I'll say it again:

As much as possible, GROW/RAISE YOUR OWN!
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I had just watched that one a little while ago. Made sense to me.
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I've seen so many final warnings......
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Food supply has gone to hell. No fuzz on the peaches and they rot before they ripen. Strawberries big and tasteless and no fragrance. It is all trans fruit...looks real, but it is all ****.

When I was a kid I bought had a bag of Babcock white peaches near Stockton, CA. They perfumed the entire room...magnificent.
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I've seen so many final warnings......
I member the imminent collapse y2K, 9/11, '08 Recession and so forth. One thing about the collapse is that you'll never be able to predict it. (unless you predict it constantly, in which case eventually you'll get it right I suppose)
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I've said it more than once, I'll say it again:

As much as possible, GROW/RAISE YOUR OWN!
If only everybody could do that. Not everybody has the time, skill, and land to become full time farmers.
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If only everybody could do that. Not everybody has the time, skill, and land to become full time farmers.
Everybody can grow something, no matter where they are.
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A 5 gallon bucket full of potting soil on a balcony or sidewalk will produce food. It's not hard to grow something
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A 5 gallon bucket full of potting soil on a balcony or sidewalk will produce food. It's not hard to grow something
But it's a lot of work to feed yourself and your family. Growing a dozen tomatoes a year is fun but not very useful.
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But it's a lot of work to feed yourself and your family. Growing a dozen tomatoes a year is fun but not very useful.
My wife is a farmer's daughter, who is in the garden all summer.
But she doesn't even come close to feeding us.
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Everybody can grow something, no matter where they are.

Way back in the day ... I did my share of growing "something." And yes ... you can grow crops indoors or outdoors if you have the right equipment, soil, and patience.
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Food supply has gone to hell. No fuzz on the peaches and they rot before they ripen. Strawberries big and tasteless and no fragrance. It is all trans fruit...looks real, but it is all ****.

When I was a kid I bought had a bag of Babcock white peaches near Stockton, CA. They perfumed the entire room...magnificent.
Babcocks are a fantastic peach but they don't keep long after picked. We had a tree years ago but it was old and dying so we replaced it with a Elberta which seemed to survive the fire. We will see how it does this year.
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My wife is a farmer's daughter, who is in the garden all summer.
But she doesn't even come close to feeding us.
I grew up on a farm. I have tried to estimate how many acres it would take to feed our family on food we raised or killed ourselves. I think I could do it on 3 acres plus hunting, trapping, and fishing elsewhere. With a tractor, farm implements, large scale irrigation, and a selection of pesticides, I think I could do it part time. Doing it home-owner garden style, it would be a full time job for all of us. And, without the irrigation and pesticides I doubt that we could actually produce enough to be self sufficient.
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Itís one thing to plant a couple of rows of potatoes in a garden, but quite another doing a couple of acres.

Thirty tomato pants was about my limit and that sauce would last about 9 months eating it one a week, at 60 I couldnít do it now.

One year I lost 3 20í rows of bush beans over 2 nights thanks to a critter.

My asset is timber and firewood thatís whatís going to provide cash or food barter, I hope.


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Its the bulk grains that get you through. Garden produce supplements it, as does meat, which is mostly a flavoring. Depending on a garden alone is a good way to starve.
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Not counting that there are 6 major seed companies with China being in the top ten. All genetic seed that you have to buy every year. Still some heirloom seeds where you can save seeds and replant. These few companies have a lock and monopoly on food crop seeds. Used to be that all small farms had hogs, cows, chickens, gardens, etc. but almost none do today. We all depend on Big Brother. Didn't have to tell me as I know it's so!!
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I grew up on a farm. I have tried to estimate how many acres it would take to feed our family on food we raised or killed ourselves. I think I could do it on 3 acres plus hunting, trapping, and fishing elsewhere. With a tractor, farm implements, large scale irrigation, and a selection of pesticides, I think I could do it part time. Doing it home-owner garden style, it would be a full time job for all of us. And, without the irrigation and pesticides I doubt that we could actually produce enough to be self sufficient.
There was a guy that figured out how to feed his family from their modest house and swimming pool. It was a Doomsday Preppers episode. Tilapia, chickens, duck weed, chicken poop fertilized the weed.


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MA Survivalist - as a fellow MA member it is always interesting to see what happens with our grocery stores when the threat of something happens - such as winter storm, hurricane etc. - but this one really brought it even further home as far as I am concerned. Our local grocery store was out of paper products, cleaning supplies within about 20 minutes and then all the pastas and sauces went next. And now 3 weeks out it is still very hard to come by.
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Its the bulk grains that get you through. Garden produce supplements it, as does meat, which is mostly a flavoring. Depending on a garden alone is a good way to starve.
Small Scale Grain Raising by Gene Logsdon
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