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Old 03-19-2020, 09:17 PM
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"Martial Law in the United States is Illegal, and unconstitutional. I wouldn't advise it.
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It's not called Martial Law....now it's called Shelter In Place. All of California is now under Shelter order starting at midnight Thursday. Second hand reports of mass buying of machetes at hardware stores in California gives it that Purge feeling. Maybe that's why the California Guard is being called up. Stay frosty everyone.
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Don't look forward to this kind of mess. Glad I live a ways from such.
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Maybe that's why the California Guard is being called up.
Do you have any reputable evidence of this?
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Here is an article from yesterday re California Guard:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ic/2866134001/

And information by state, here:

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/c...ions-by-state/

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It's not called Martial Law....now it's called Shelter In Place. All of California is now under Shelter order starting at midnight Thursday. Second hand reports of mass buying of machetes at hardware stores in California gives it that Purge feeling. Maybe that's why the California Guard is being called up. Stay frosty everyone.
Who are the second hand reports coming from? How did they find out?
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In NE Iowa (as of Monday survey) it's just handgun .380 thru .45 that is out. Revolver,.22 and rifle in stock at the 4 places I visited.
I've had 3500 223 and about 4000 9mm for about 8 years...but I made an online order for 1000 more 223 and a 1000 more 9mm last night.

Fingers crossed. Gun stores everywhere are cleaned out
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NO WORRIES about crowds or raiders or riots...

Hasn't anyone heard? It is now against the law for groups to get together and with social spacing requirements it is hard to be an unruly dangerous mob when there are fewer than 10 and you have to stay several feet apart.

See, no problems at all.
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NO WORRIES about crowds or raiders or riots...

Hasn't anyone heard? It is now against the law for groups to get together and with social spacing requirements it is hard to be an unruly dangerous mob when there are fewer than 10 and you have to stay several feet apart.

See, no problems at all.
The undesirables wont be paying attention to that directive lol
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Theres nothing left to buy in most places
All I saw for shotguns on Saturday was #16, #20, #28 and .410...
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Lot of people in this forum just want things to go bad so they can have their prepper moment to shine but lets be realistic..its gonna be a while before things go real bad in terms of desperate jobless people turning to crimes.
right now its the fear stage.
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Lot of people in this forum just want things to go bad so they can have their prepper moment to shine but lets be realistic..its gonna be a while before things go real bad in terms of desperate jobless people turning to crimes.
right now its the fear stage.
Fear can make people do horrible things. Will it be a while before they're THAT afraid? Maybe, but if things dont give soon, that straw is going to break the proverbial camel's back.

And there is nothing wrong with anticipating or planning for when - not if - that happens.
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A few things...

Fear, in many cases, is not always logical. People can and do overreact to what they perceive to fear when the event/trigger is not all that significant (propaganda anyone?). That said, you have to assume that overreaction could be an outcome and prepare for it.

I don't think we are to the "Purge" level yet, but events sometimes can happened rapidly and it's best to prepare for it, even if not likely.
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NYPD reported drop in crime.
makes sense as people arent out as much.

But this trend could change any day if looting starts somewhere..it will create copycat effect...same like Toilet paper
Driving around there is mostly worker vehicles and pickup trucks. No police cars ironically. Where did they go? I guess they are doing that here in Oregon the no traffic stop thing. However there hasn't been any weird crimes or anything. It's actually less exciting then 'normal' times. This is just an extended vacation. In France they do a full month of vacation every year and if you are the dummy that travels there during that time your not I repeat NOT going to enjoy it. Almost everything is shut down as bad or worse then this. Literally nothing is open not even for takeaway.

If the USA plans the economy around this for Feb when most flus hit for a month off then people will generally be happier which translates to a more productive workplace during the other end of it. Till the time I was born most stores generally closed by 8pm AT THE LATEST. Many still closed at 6pm except on Fridays and closed on Sundays except gas stations which are essential. Before that even gas stations closed on Sundays so you'd have to get your gas on Sat evening at the latest if you were traveling far.
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Who are the second hand reports coming from? How did they find out?
If it were martial law road blocks would be setup especially at government buildings such as power plants,dams,infrastructure buildings.etc and anyone who was out after such and such time would be arrested without questioned. WW2 was under a LOT worse lockdown from the weeks of December 7th 1941.

The last weather report was on the 15th I believe.

This isn't the case. Some stores are still open and you can ride your bicycle or skateboard by yourself for free and there isn't (as far as I know) TSA style check points.

Trump isn't interested in that but if we had Obama or Bush we would've been like that a week ago. Obama would've locked us down like Boston Bombing.

Trump has said in interviews he didn't believe in war and we haven't been in war even though the crazy guy in North Korea had every opportunity to 'start' something Trump played poker with him and made him look dumb but not in a way to incite him. The only WW3 we had was whatever the media made up to crash the economy which did stagger a lot because of the investors not wanting to lose their shirt.

Hillary would've screeched at him and we would've been either nucked or EMP'ed or both.

I am SO glad we are not in that scenario. Nothing would work at all!

BTW: You also wouldn't be on here discussing the possibility of nothing working. Hillary would've used the fairness doctrine to first shut the talk radio guys down by controlling the FCC and then making sure they can't stay on and then go after these forums unless the forum owner caves(d) in and censors anything that sounds like a threat to her then this forum would be allowed to stay on but very carefully watched.

One wrong slip and the owner would never be seen again or die by a mysterious 'suicide' so he would for his own safety and possibly for the safety of his family bump a lot of people off.

You don't want that scenario.
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Just read where Kern co. is releasing prisoners. On the face book page for the mountain community about 35 miles from the facility, the homeowners are noting men walking along the road to the community. One stopped and questioned one of the men. He has no family in Glennville, no job, no place to stay, yet he is walking there. The locals are reporting break ins. Local deputy says it is not against the law to walk along the road. Any idea on what is happening?
What kind of prisoners? I imagine it's open prisoners that are being released that pose little to not threat and would not kill you but be the kind that you can scare easy or most often let you tackle them as they know they will face a longer sentence if they attack you back. Generally it's pretty obvious to tell the type. Seasoned criminals have that 'vibe' and often look to them. Just be sure to trust your guts and not lose your cool or whatever you face will go ten times worse.

You do know there is different categories for security from Class A to D. https://www.doingtime.co.uk/how-pris...and-prisoners/ Here is a preview.

There are many types of prison with the UK, both private and publicly owned and these are best defined by the nature of the prisoners they keep.

Beyond the obvious split between male, female and juvenile, prisoners are categories according to the risk they represent to society and to each other. There are also a split between Local Prisons and Dispersal Prisons. A Local Prison is where you will be sent initially and where the assessment of you will take place. As its name suggest, a Local prison will be local to the area of the court where your trial is held. Depending on the length of your sentence you may spend all your time at a local prison, but if your sentence is for a longer duration (over 4 years) you may be sent to Dispersal Prison where you will serve your sentence. It is as broad as it is long which type of prison is best, there is little to choose between them in terms of the regime they operate or the work/education opportunity they offer

All prisoners are given a category which sets out how the prison system will handle you. At the most serious end for male prisoners are Category A prisoners. These people are defined as being “Those whose escape would be highly dangerous to the public or national security. Offences that may result in consideration for Category A or Restricted Status include: , Attempted murder, Manslaughter, Wounding with intent, Rape, Indecent assault, Robbery or conspiracy to rob (with firearms), Firearms offences, Importing or supplying Class A controlled drug, Possessing or supplying explosives, Offences connected with terrorism and Offences under the Official Secrets Act”. Category A prisoners are further segregated into Standard Risk, High Risk, and Exceptional Risk, based on their likelihood of escaping.
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Lot of people in this forum just want things to go bad so they can have their prepper moment to shine but lets be realistic..its gonna be a while before things go real bad in terms of desperate jobless people turning to crimes.
right now its the fear stage.
I don't agree with some of Trump's globalist things but I do agree he won't let it get that bad. He has talked to victims personally of shootings and he isn't that type of guy. He has a lot of support of people who are calm minded and that influenced him. He completely changed after he went to the flooding in Houston and didn't brag so much and bragged a lot less even later after he saw the town of Pleasant I mean Paradise burned up and talked to townsfolks who's lives changed.

Tweeting is the only way he can get heared without the media taking what he says out of context or fake tweets that vanish the next day. I've seen a lot of that on Bing. All the other candidates tweet and so do most of the DNC yet there is no cries they tweet too much.

Obama used Facebook to promote his lies and made some schools sing for him. FB was largely still independent not really into the censorship yet till after that.
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Not just there, many other states too. Michigan, Oregon, I think CA... it's going to overwhelm our system in many ways.
You forgot to base what your quoting.
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