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I have left the last two slices of bread in the bag and after months it still wont mold.
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Welcome to the wonderful world of artificial preservatives!

Normal, healthy food is supposed to mold. If the mold won't even touch it, think of just how inhospitable to life it must be...
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They probably put special additives in it so you won't make your own penicillin.
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The bread of today is not like it used to be . Wheat is nothing like it used to be .
Welcome to the world of GMO .
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Normal, healthy food is supposed to mold. If the mold won't even touch it, think of just how inhospitable to life it must be...
That's kind of been my guiding rule for many years--if bacteria, yeast, and even slime molds won't touch it, why the heck would you think it's good for you to eat it?

Sure, if you know you sterilized it in a sealed container, removed all its active water and/or removed it from all oxygen, nothing should be growing on it. But just sitting out there on a counter and nothing wants it? Those microscopic little beasties of the air probably know something about it that you should find out.
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Which is why we grind our own wheat and make our bread from scratch.
Left alone in the bread box it'll last three maybe four days before it starts to mold.
Tastes way better than store bought also. Store bread is too sweet.
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Going from memory, the bleach the flour, then brominate the dough. Not much going to surviive that. Then they add free radical trap chemicals BHA and BHT, although they did that decades ago when bread would mold.

The bromine I think is new. They call it a dough conditioner. I avoid the bread that has high fructose corn syrup. Maybe one of those things, or maybe something else.

Chlorine and bromine are dangerous in the diet, because they compete with iodine for uptake in the body, which most people are deficient in anyway.

heck, maybe they hit it with gamma rays at some point.

"Mr Baker, why is this bread glowing green? "

" That green glow means it is fresh" !

maybe I should try out my wheat grinder and see if I can make bread. I assume it will cover the entire house in flour dust.
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I just threw away some rolls a couple days ago, that was sprouting mold.
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There is a Youtube video of some guy that put a complete McDonalds hamburger on a plate in his kitchen and left it there for a year on the counter. It never grew mold and still looked much the same as when new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfdg4ymCiT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uHxRwQqWFo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IGtDPG4UfI
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The burger doesnt mold because it dries out. Yeah preservatives help too
but get it wet and stick it in a bag in the heat and it will rot.

I've had bread like the OP said that wouldnt mold, but then I've had some
that did. depends on different factors
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The burger doesnt mold because it dries out. Yeah preservatives help too
but get it wet and stick it in a bag in the heat and it will rot.
Yes, sure, it dehydrates into a petrified rock and then it lasts a year--or several--without further change. But go grind up some fresh beef, pat it into a nice hamburger patty, cook it up, put it on the counter, and walk away and leave it sit. It's going to rot long before it can desiccate enough to keep things from growing on it. The fact the McD burger didn't say something about just how much preservative is going into that beef.
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Some breads mold and some just dry out. I've ran into both. I remember as a kid, if you dropped ice cream on the sidewalk it would melt. Recently I saw where some kid dropped ice cream on the sidewalk and it turned into some kind of plastic goo. Better living through chemistry and all that.
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Not preservatives.

http://www.seriouseats.com/2016/02/t...never-rot.html
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Logic always prevails. Why would fast food be full of preservatives? It's very nature means it's served as soon as it's made and doesn't need them. Sorta like the folks who say canned food lasts because they're full of preservatives.
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I have been buying hoagie rolls from the grocery store bakery, made fresh each day in the store, and it lasts about 5 to 7 days before mold grows. If I buy the non-GMO, natural, or if on sale the organic type wheat bread it is good for about a week. If I buy the cheap processed bread it may last two weeks. If I buy pita bread it is good for about 5 or 6 days.
Moral of this story, the sort of healthy stuff still molds, the processed stuff has too many preservatives.
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Son found a couple hostess twinkies under the back jump seat of this truck that were 3 or 4 years old.
They looked like the day they were packaged, except a bit leathery. Go figure?
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Recently, I had some Arnold sandwich thins, 100% whole wheat variety, that molded on the inside of them.
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I don't buy bread all that often but when I do it usually molds before I can finish it (single dude here). I make bread occasionally but mostly it is store bought and I have not encountered this.
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...or,maybe the OP has a very clean kitchen!
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Why would fast food be full of preservatives? It's very nature means it's served as soon as it's made and doesn't need them.
Except that most "fast food" is compounded in a central factory somewhere and then trucked across states to come to rest in the franchises before it finally gets "prepared" to order.

However, I stand corrected on why a McD hamburger doesn't mold.

So now my question is--they're seriously so thin and overdone that they just dry out on a counter before they can rot? They're burger jerky? And people still like them? Why??

That's actually an honest question. I have eaten in a McD's. It was sometime in the late 1950s on a cross-country trip because it was on the freeway, and we decided to check it out. My parents probably figured oh, that new burger place--people say they're good, the kids like burgers, maybe they'll all stop whining for a couple of hours. We went back to getting off the freeways to eat. None of us ever begged for another McD stop, and the ones I've seen people eating from time to time have never inspired any desire in me to repeat my childhood experience--not when there are still places I can get a real fresh, fat, juicy rare burger. (I also ate in a Burger King once in the 1990s because the guy offering me a free ride to a wedding 3 states away wanted to eat there, and I figured his car, his gas, his choice of stop. I won't be voluntarily stopping in for another of those either. But upon consideration, I suspect they also wouldn't mold. Wonder why no one youtubes petrified Burger King burgers?)
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