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Found this on YouTube...pretty good advice:

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How about if you just run away?
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I took martial arts for many years and I would agree, run away if possible. If you gave fight someone with a knife more often than not you are going to get cut.

Thats why you always see martial artists use wooden knives in these demos.
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Some consequences to not running away....

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How about if you just run away?
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm only 4'11". I'm not likely to be lucky enough to outrun someone over 6'.
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I read somewhere that cons in prison somehow place thick magazines between their bodies and their shirts when going about their prison activities to help sheild themselves from a knife attack.

BTW that picture was disturbing, but if the attacker knew what he was doing, he would have thrust the blade into the body instead of slashing it. Then the only pictures would be from a morgue.....

Perhaps a thick leather jacket would be best to wear. It won't do much to stop thrusts but it will prevent a lot of damage to the upper body slash-wise.
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Not a knife "attack", but a knife "threat". As in, the perp walks up and HOLDS a knife to your back.

In an attack from behind, you would probably just be dead meat.
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I don't know about anyone else, but I'm only 4'11". I'm not likely to be lucky enough to outrun someone over 6'.
If you have adrenaline pumping through you, in fear of your life, you might be surprised how fast you can run.

By turning around and attacking your assailant at 4'11" (I know exactly how tall that is, you're the same height as my mom )


You are at a tremendous strength disadvantage. If at all possible, running may be your best option.

If running is not an option...

You need to master that maneuver with someone much larger than you, and resisting with all of their strength against you. It's the only way you will prevail if forced.

I will also add this, when presented with no other option, you need to IMMEDIATLEY Incapacitate your assailant. A strike to the head will not be sufficient from someone of your stature. A chop to the throat has some statistical probability, but I'm even leary of that because of your size. You do not want to be inside the grasp of a larger individual when they have a knife, if you cannot immediately incapacitate them.

Incapacitate in this circumstance shall be difined as....

Massive head/neck trauma, or complete removal of the weapon wielding limb.

If you are carrying a firearm, you need to buy time to get to it. Distance may get you the extra time. Maneuvering around the car may get you the extra time. ect....

Because of your stature, you need to take advantage of your natural attributes. Strength is not one of them. Speed??

Hone your situational awareness ability.....
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Not a knife "attack", but a knife "threat". As in, the perp walks up and HOLDS a knife to your back.

In an attack from behind, you would probably just be dead meat.
Which also brings up an interesting point.

He wants something from you, if it's monetary. I'd give it up and then run.....
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If you can avoid it do not step to his inside, that is where his other arm is ready to punch you or his legs to knee you; step to the outside.

In the video if the fellow stepped more forward with his left leg then he would have been in position to sweep the leg to take the guy down. My preferred method to attacking the legs in class is to stomp the back of the knee and thereby folding it.

I recently told a fellow student to attack me with a wood knife vigorously and was able to disarm him almost every time. However, when it came time for him to defend from the knife I easily "cut up" his arms several times every time because I practice Filipino limb destruction and not just focus on attacking the torso. The hands and arms are what is closest to you, attack them first if they are in the way.

Attacks from behind are the most difficult to defend against which also means that the more you can get to the outside or backside of an attacker the safer your defense will be. So stay away from his inside where he has all his natural weapons to use.

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Not a knife "attack", but a knife "threat". As in, the perp walks up and HOLDS a knife to your back.

In an attack from behind, you would probably just be dead meat.
I completely agree here. There is a HUGE difference between threat and attack. In an attack, the guy would not be holding that knife in your back and allowing you to do the meanuver. Instead you will be stabbed repeatedly and quickly. A threat, however is what was shown in the end of that video.
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Not a knife "attack", but a knife "threat". As in, the perp walks up and HOLDS a knife to your back.

In an attack from behind, you would probably just be dead meat.
I agree, too.

Not knowing someone is sneaking up behind you and about to stab you in the back (possibly repeatedly) - would probably mean certain death. If not, it's doubtful you'd have the strength to render much damage to the perp. Not to mention the obvious fact that you'd seriously be caught off-guard to say the least... and sometimes, that's enough of a factor to mean you're a goner.
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I agree, too.

Not knowing someone is sneaking up behind you and about to stab you in the back (possibly repeatedly) - would probably mean certain death. If not, it's doubtful you'd have the strength to render much damage to the perp. Not to mention the obvious fact that you'd seriously be caught off-guard to say the least... and sometimes, that's enough of a factor to mean you're a goner.
+2. They won't survive if the attacker even has the barest knowledge. the back of our bodies is not protected very well. The ribs, spine, neck, head, biceps, back of the knee and other points.
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If you have adrenaline pumping through you, in fear of your life, you might be surprised how fast you can run.

By turning around and attacking your assailant at 4'11" (I know exactly how tall that is, you're the same height as my mom )


You are at a tremendous strength disadvantage. If at all possible, running may be your best option.

If running is not an option...

You need to master that maneuver with someone much larger than you, and resisting with all of their strength against you. It's the only way you will prevail if forced.

I will also add this, when presented with no other option, you need to IMMEDIATLEY Incapacitate your assailant. A strike to the head will not be sufficient from someone of your stature. A chop to the throat has some statistical probability, but I'm even leary of that because of your size. You do not want to be inside the grasp of a larger individual when they have a knife, if you cannot immediately incapacitate them.

Incapacitate in this circumstance shall be difined as....

Massive head/neck trauma, or complete removal of the weapon wielding limb.

If you are carrying a firearm, you need to buy time to get to it. Distance may get you the extra time. Maneuvering around the car may get you the extra time. ect....

Because of your stature, you need to take advantage of your natural attributes. Strength is not one of them. Speed??

Hone your situational awareness ability.....
I have been attacked with a knife and lucky for me that i knew and practiced unarmed combat,unlucky or lucky for me depending how you see it i just took a stab to the arm and even luckier the wound was in between two veins and not across them.

How did i defend myself,well he thrusted the knife at me and i side stepped and took a stab to the inside of my right arm,on the second thrust i blocked his right hand with the back of my right hand whilst stepping to the left and chopped him in the throut with a ridge hand strike,kick to the bollocks and finished with a head stomp.

I had no choice other than to fight and was lucky,very lucky but ive always been taught that you create your own luck which just by learning unarmed combat gave me a fighting chance.

What advise would i give,Run.

Go learn how to defend yourself.

If your walking the street carry a tightly rolled magazine and if there is a small chance of being attacked by a knife wielding thug and no way out jab him in the eye with the rolled up magazine and twist it into his eyes,this should give you a reach advantage and give you time to RUUUUUNNNNN,but remember that if you get the chance a good hard kick to the bollocks will give you more time to escape.

But just remember the best line of defence is awareness,knowledge and being prepared..
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I totally believe in luck. The harder I work and the more I practice, the more luck I have.
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Don't forget to take off your shirt.



Wrapping a jacket or shirt around your 'weak' arm gives you some protection when attempting to deflect blows...if you plan on staying there and fighting. Of course you always hope that the attacker is not keen enough to keep his/her knife razor sharp, making it a much more effective technique.
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This is why we carry guns to a knife fight.
(And that photo was disturbing)


'nuf said.
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So who here has actually been attacked by someone with a knife?
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So who here has actually been attacked by someone with a knife?
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Ive been attacked more than once with a knife but only stabbed once,i got slashed once across the chest too..
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I think the more important message is to be situationally aware so that someone with a knife does not get the drop on you IMO.
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