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Old 11-20-2008, 04:10 PM
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hey guys im getting ready to get a remington 700 sps in either .308 or .270. which would you buy? which bullet is bigger? what kind of game could you hunt with them?



i plan on hunting deer or maybe somthing just a little bigger.
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.308 All the way.
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I have both. The deer do not know the difference.
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Easier to find ammo if things get really bad since its a military caliber.



But either will work if you arent concerned about the ammo part. Both are good rounds.
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so why should i get a .308 and what kind of animal could it bring down?
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so why should i get a .308 and what kind of animal could it bring down?
I doubt there is anything in SC that you couldn't bring down with a .308
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I doubt there is anything in SC that you couldn't bring down with a .308
I hunt deer and hog with a .308, no issues what so ever. There isn't anything in the Southeast you can't bring down with a .308.
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what about the 270
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they are both good rounds, and will probably kill anything you should them at.

6 of one half a dozen of the other.

the .308 is bigger obviously and has heavier bullets but unless your going for very large or dangerous game, or super long distance it shouldn't matter.

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From what I have learned the .270 has a flatter trajectory and if you are out in the open and trying to take game at long distance it will be more accurate. It may not be as nessacery in South Carolina compared to being out in the open spaces out west.
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.308 for sure. You can find it anywhere if shortages start!
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I shy away from anything that isn't a current use military caliber, hence I'd buy it in .308

The .270 is a great cartridge, but there is alot more .308 ammo in circulation so availability is less of an issue.
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The advantage of the 270 is its speed and flat trajectory. It is essentially a 30-06 necked down to shoot a smaller, lighter bullet thereby achieving higher velocity. It is a popular cartridge out here in the west where 300+ yard shots are not uncommon. It is perfectly suited for deer and antelope, and will take down elk and bigger animals just fine with a well placed shot. Ammo is also widely available and inexpensive making it a good choice for any survivalist. Having said that, if you don't plan on shooting beyond 300 yards then the 270 offers no real advantages over the even more common and widely available 308 or 30-06. Personally, I shoot a 7mm Rem. Mag. and have been very pleased with its effective range and power, but the recoil is more severe, and ammo is 30-40% more expensive than comparable loads in 270 or 30-06. I have often regretted not getting a 270 or 30-06 for this reason. I think these offer a better value to the survivalist who is more concerned with versatility and availability of ammo then whether or not you can get that extra 50 yards of range.
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Old 11-21-2008, 02:56 PM
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i have a lot of open plains land in SC. ill be hunting deer at long range. ill think ill get the 270
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Long range get a 7mm.
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I have the .270 and honestly I love it, I shoot deer all up and down Georgia

with it. I have never had a deer run further than 50 yards after shooting it

with the .270. The .308 is a good gun aswell, but for shooting longer

distances more accurately then a .270 all the day. I can touch a deer around

300 yards away and without a doubt bring it onto it's knees. So if you are

going to be hunting out in the open, .270 but the .308 is better for woods

and stuff, because it can tear through the thicket easier.
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If this is going to be your only rifle for a while (it sounds like it's your only one), then I'd go with the .308. If the house of cards comes crashing down, it will easier to feed a 308 than a 270. I'd bet that there are 50 rounds of 308 for every round of 270 in the country. The 308 is a heavier bullet so it should have be penetration of cover, and better suitable within any range you'd be inclinced to shoot. 270 is a great hunting caliber, but I think the .308 is much better for general purpose.
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Old 11-21-2008, 07:36 PM
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what is the range of the 308 and should i get a 30-06. how accurate is the 30-06?
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Old 11-21-2008, 07:59 PM
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308 short range? Lets get real and watch a little Dr Phil!

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/balli...r.html&x=7&y=7

Compare the 2 using bullets of comparable ballistic coeffcients using the 130 X in 270 and the 150 X in 308

At 400 yards...

270 velocity is 2186 fps

308 velocity is 2030 fps

The 270 has a whopping 156 fps advantage on paper in the lab. Thats looks good on the surface but lets dig a little deeper and see what that whole 156 fps more speed gets you...

270 has 1379 fpe

308 has 1370 fpe

Thats just what I thought, there is a horrendous 9 fpe difference. Unless you splitting hairs your target will never know the difference I assure you! Heck there is often that much difference from one round to the next from the same box of ammo of the same lot of ammo!

270 with a 100 yard zero will drop all of 20.4 inches at 400 yards

308 with a 100 yard zero will drop all of 22.9 inches at 400 yards

There is a whole 2.5 inches of difference at 400 yards and most people cant even hold a gun still and solidly enough to shoot good enough with either at that range and see any difference! Bottom line...if the 308 aint good enough accuracy, range and knock-down power wise, a 270 will likely offer very little if any improvement for you unless your in the lab doing testing under strict controls.

Now lets look at a factor I dont think anyone really touched on...wide bullet selection by design and weight. Here is where the 308 winchester really shines! For the 270 I think I counted 5 bullet weights from 100 grs to 150 grains. Now for the 308 I counted 16 I believe it was and they range from 110 to 200 grains. Now that offers a world of vesitility. Consider too when a manufacture brings a new line of ammo or bullet design on the market what caliber do you thing its often offered in first? 30 cal!!! Consider too that the 308 comes in a short action rifle VS a long action for the 270. That means that you can get a gun that often a tad bit lighter, and even more so when looking at ultra-light models. When it comes to consistent accuracy potential, the short action in 308 has an advantage over the 270's long action as it is stiffer and as such flexes less under stresses of recoil. This is of little consequese unless your trying to build a real tack driver of a rifle for some serious prescion work at long range, such as a sniper/tactical rifle. We have already talked about ammo availablity in hard times, so I wont beat that dead horse or give it CPR again.

Hey dont get me wrong, the 270 is a fine round and often has good accuracy right out of the box, but so does the 308. Both have great knock down power at distance and both can shoot much further effectively than most people will be able to master enough for one to have an advantage over the other.

Get the 308!!! You wont regret it.
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