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Old 11-10-2013, 02:55 PM
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Very easy to toss in your car too. I consider it a consolidation of some vital equipment even if I don't intend to wear it.
That is true too, I liked Joe Nobody's books and how they referred to chest rigs. Better to set it up for prepping than war. saves on weight and unnecessary equipment. Even if you don't want it to carry weapons stuff you can make a great bush kit or survival rig for it. Thanks to the proliferation of molle you can any kind of pouch you think you need and go from there to include a pouch for water bladders or canteens. With that you can go a long way.
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I use a chest rig sometimes when I'm logging in rougher terrain, handy to have a spare chain and some tools, air horn, and a small first aid kit since my chainsaw pants don't have pockets. And I also use them to hold my pants up since they're kinda heavy for a belt alone.

So there's your justification ;-)
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From what I'm learning the plate carrier/body armor, vest is your "First Line" gear, it is supposed to support your rifle/carbine.

I happen to own a molle belt/battle belt for my pistol classes and matches...apparently this is called "2nd line" gear. This is to support your pistol. I do not plan on putting any rifle mags on the belt (or any pistol mags on the plate carrier for that matter.)

I'm considering a higher riding plate carrier for my first line stuff, but it would have to ride high enough for me to still wear the battle belt. The Pig plate carrier has some great reviews; although it is expensive.
They have things called warbelts
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_10/28...d.html&page=28
I like the concept of them. Most of them consist of mag carriers for your pistol, your pistol/holster, basic FAK, dump pouch, and maybe 2 or 3 tacos for your rifle. However, it looks like you'll be dropping around $200+ for them depending on how much gear you want to put on it.
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The Walking Dead has the answer. None of the survivors wear anything tactical except for a couple of thigh rigs. They do have some riot gear but they only wear that in the event of an incoming siege. The only people that wore anything tactical were the douches at Woodbury and they are dead. It seems like the producers did some pretty good research into WROL scenarios.

As a real life zombie apocalypse scenario, would a tactical vest be prudent if you were stuck in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina? Nope. You'd either be killed by cops or mobbed.

Always be the grey man.
Same producers who use broomstick rifles and limp wrist revolvers that don't seem to run out of ammo. Don't forget 500 yard head shots from the hip. Or last weeks episode where they whipped out full auto m4 and take out the horde with one magazine...

I don't take much of what they do on the show seriously. If my job was to stand in the guard tower and shoot intruders/zombies you'd see me with a simple rig. Maybe not if I had one of those snazzy Hollywood infinite "clips"
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Same producers who use broomstick rifles and limp wrist revolvers that don't seem to run out of ammo. Don't forget 500 yard head shots from the hip. Or last weeks episode where they whipped out full auto m4 and take out the horde with one magazine...

I don't take much of what they do on the show seriously. If my job was to stand in the guard tower and shoot intruders/zombies you'd see me with a simple rig. Maybe not if I had one of those snazzy Hollywood infinite "clips"
Dont be hating on The Walking Dead. It is pretty accurate. They cant show all the reloads. We do have to fill in the blanks sometimes.

In regards to the M4 single magazine theory, you must have turned your head because the key part of that scene was Carl tossing Rick a fresh mag.

But this is for another thread.
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Dont be hating on The Walking Dead. It is pretty accurate.
It's fairly accurate for a good reference on what NOT to do when the end of the world comes.
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It's fairly accurate for a good reference on what NOT to do when the end of the world comes.
True. You have to be more strict with your kids. CARL! GET IN THE HOUSE!!!!!
Oh and Glocks have thumb safeties...


I'll admit the governors compound had what you were supposed to do if a community was to come back
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When things go bump in the night...
Living in the middle of the dark and scarey woods, where 911 takes.. well lets say a long time to get a response, it is I who must waddle around and "check on things"...
Lessons learned
1. Flops don't get it, especially if you happen to step in it!
Corrective action...well broken in Romeo's.
2. Bathrobes turn you into the neighborhood flasher.
Corrective action...Free Willy or sweats.
3. Where the "H" is everything???
Corrective action...A chest rig (vest) hanging on wall with: 1911, 3 spare mags.
Radio, flashlight, 3 MBR mags, pocket full of 12 ga.
So yea, I kinda like my chest rig for grab and go.

And yes, the sweats are optional!
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It's fairly accurate for a good reference on what NOT to do when the end of the world comes.
Hate to jump a thread but I have to say I like how Carl can't have his gun, but they leave the guns in laundry carts by a fence. What not to do is about right.
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When things go bump in the night...
Living in the middle of the dark and scarey woods, where 911 takes.. well lets say a long time to get a response, it is I who must waddle around and "check on things"...
Lessons learned
1. Flops don't get it, especially if you happen to step in it!
Corrective action...well broken in Romeo's.
2. Bathrobes turn you into the neighborhood flasher.
Corrective action...Free Willy or sweats.
3. Where the "H" is everything???
Corrective action...A chest rig (vest) hanging on wall with: 1911, 3 spare mags.
Radio, flashlight, 3 MBR mags, pocket full of 12 ga.
So yea, I kinda like my chest rig for grab and go.

And yes, the sweats are optional!
Haha that got me. Don't forget that maglights always short out as soon as you see somethin scary.
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I found this
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Amazon (Thumbnails)It has a hydration pouch in the back
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I like the vests as they can carry everything. I don't like how they stand out. How much ammo do you really need? I figure more then 3 magazines more won't help because I'm simply not hitting the target or so out numbered it doesn't matter.
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I use a simple modified Dutch LBV - modified it with lighter, smaller M1967 H harness shoulder straps instead of the big clunky ones. I'm running double USMC Coyote Brown M4 pouches, one of which carries my sidearm.

That being said, I have several used FLCs I got cheap and plan to set up for various weapons I have, so that if TSHTF I could simply choose, or hand them out to friends. Being able to clip my 1911 with paddle holster on my waist, grab the shotgun and throw a vest on seems convenient.

If you set them up right (ie: don't load them up with every damn piece of gear people SAY you need) you can drive in them comfortably - something to think about if bugging out. An FLC set up correctly would also conceal well under a coat or jacket. Good, light setup for a civilian 'grab 'n go' requirement. For long-term carry (Walking across the country) I would prefer the aforementioned LBV setup myself. Used FLCs are cheap - I bought 4 'repair needed' CB ones for $32 or so shipped off ebay.

A very good point was made about simply using them to carry gear such as food and water, rather than ammo. I plan to set one up this way for a long backpack trip I want to do next year, in an area where water could be problematic. I am thinking about trying to tie the FLC directly to the pack, but likely won't. It should offset the weight in the back somewhat, and allow me to carry at least another two gallons of water if I do it right. Gonna be a heavy mofo, even carrying not much more than water, freeze-dried food, a knife and a bivy.
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Do we need expensive chest rigs?
No.

Through most of my time in the Marine Corps, all we had was an Y-harness connected to a pistol belt with 2 mag pouches, a canteen, and (sometimes) a butt pack. We called it a war belt.

Pretty much this...



I trained with (for years) and deployed with this set up. It's simple, cheap, and it works.

Alice gear FTW.

***BTW, I stole this pic from the internet. Props to the owner.
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I found this
http://www.amazon.com/Condor-Modular...ef=pd_sbs_sg_1
It has a hydration pouch in the back
Not to be snobbish I've never been a fan of condor gear. They use pretty decent materials but their stitching is much to be desired (I've owned a few products from them that have fallen on ill-fate fairly fast)
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No.

Through most of my time in the Marine Corps, all we had was an Y-harness connected to a pistol belt with 2 mag pouches, a canteen, and (sometimes) a butt pack. We called it a war belt.

Pretty much this...



I trained with (for years) and deployed with this set up. It's simple, cheap, and it works.

Alice gear FTW.

***BTW, I stole this pic from the internet. Props to the owner.
We called that LBE or TA-50 gear in the Army.

I find vests and chest rigs to be far more comfortable - no buckles digging into your back or getting hooked on things.

I do still have a set of LBE and wouldn't mind having a couple more sets around to hand out on "The Day."
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We called that LBE or TA-50 gear in the Army.

I find vests and chest rigs to be far more comfortable - no buckles digging into your back or getting hooked on things.

I do still have a set of LBE and wouldn't mind having a couple more sets around to hand out on "The Day."
ALICE is a evil torture device that won't let you down.
If it does, its easily fixed with some duct tape. Keeps my medium pack running!
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I really don't care what other people think I "need". If that were the case I wouldn't have an AR-15 and I'd have one can of beans in the pantry.

I picked up a very nice chest rig/plate carrier made by Point Blank body Armor at a yard sale for $5. Will I ever need it? I hope not. But it sure as hell doesn't hurt anything by sitting in my closet. Eventually I will get some ceramic plates for it.
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I found this
http://www.amazon.com/Condor-Modular...ef=pd_sbs_sg_1
It has a hydration pouch in the back
I have very similar rig. I removed the molle' patch thing in the front. I carry 2 water bottle carriers, a small butt pack another molle' pouch on the back with an FAK and 2 others that hold misc stuff. It distributes weight real well and is very comfortable especially in our summer heat. I have attached a duty belt through loops that I sewed into the bottom edge of the rig. It holds machete-knife and some other gear. It is great for working through the swamps. Wouldn't wear it in suburbia because I don't go to suburbia and it would definitely stand out. But under a combat possible scenario I wouldn't hesitate. Its very convenient.
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What I need and what I want are two very different things. I have them because they are useful and I happen to like being as prepared as I can be for the worst case scenario. I thought that was why we were all here.
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