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View Poll Results: What is the Most Important Skill a Kid Should Have by the Age of 12?
How to get home 27 19.29%
Build a fire 5 3.57%
Cross a street 1 0.71%
Swim 16 11.43%
Fish or Hunt 21 15.00%
Gun safety 33 23.57%
First aid 21 15.00%
Fire drills 2 1.43%
Change a tire 0 0%
Grow a garden 14 10.00%
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I think pop culture grossly underestimates kids, and that they're capable of much more than we expect from them. By the age of 12 they should have skills that make them productive, helpful, and able to see after their own safety. What do you think they should know?
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Would be nice if the poll would let us choose multiple options.
Just depends on what culture you're a part of really. Most 12 year olds here in the US really only worry about homework and having fun. In a 3rd world country, a 12 year old could be a soldier who's killing people.

While others would disagree with me at the appropriate age for a child to learn about firearms, I would wait until they were at least 16 so they could fully comprehend the seriousness of firearm safety. That being said if I were part of a hunting family then yeah the 12 year old would be joining us lol
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I think pop culture grossly underestimates kids, and that they're capable of much more than we expect from them. By the age of 12 they should have skills that make them productive, helpful, and able to see after their own safety. What do you think they should know?
In my case, I could do a lot of those things and I think that boys should know how to do them, not because there is a lot of practical application for them, but because they encourage self-confidence and self-reliance and teach virtue.

And I think you're right about pop culture underestimating children. Most people are amazed that our children are so well catechized and know so much about theology and church history. It's because we've set goals for them to achieve and one of them is to learn these things.

If you set a standard for a child, he'll meet it every time. Set it low and don't expect anything from him and he'll meet it. Set it high and expect great things, and he'll meet that goal and shock you with just how much he can do.

Or, like my dad used to say, "Aim low and you'll hit your target every time."
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By time I was 12 I knew how to do everything that was an option but hunting and my gun saftey skills where a bit on the light side.

I ended up started hunting when I turned 18 and knew my gun saftey by 13 or 14. I wish it was sooner but my parents didn't care for guns but didn't hate them either. I learned gun saftey at a Boy Scout Camp with a .22 and a 20 gauge shotgun. I first went hunting when I could legally buy my own gun.
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Really all of them.

Changing a tire is not something they will likely have to do on their own, but it wouldn't hurt to teach them the basics.

I don't except a kid to grow a garden when he is 12, but knowing the basics about how plants mature, what plants grow well in an area, etc, is just good basic knowledge for someone to have.

If I had to pick the most important, it is how to get home. 12 year olds first order of business during trouble should be finding their parents, so knowing their way home or how to contact home at least is the most important in my book.
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My 9 year old can do alot of that now unfortunatly my 11 year old has no grasp that life isnt fair and life isnt a joke shes off in her head 90% of her day
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You need a "all of the above" option
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, I would wait until they were at least 16 so they could fully comprehend the seriousness of firearm safety. That being said if I were part of a hunting family then yeah the 12 year old would be joining us lol
You start teaching at a very young age because by the time they reach 16, they have had several years of movie and video game programming that has to be "undone". I got my first Red Rider BB gun at the ripe old age of 6. I bought my oldest his first at age 5. Now you may argue that BB guns dont qualify, but in reality it creates a foundation to build on for future firearms. I understood by the time I was 7 that if I pointed my gun at something and pulled the trigger 1.) something was broken or 2.) something died. My oldest was the same, my youngest is 3 right now and he is already in "training".

I also think hunting should be grouped with firearm safety. Not much use of one without the other unless you plan on hunting with primitive weapons such as bows, but that is much less productive im most cases.

I agree, it wouldve been an easier poll had you been able to prioritize the list. Personally I think everything on the list, with the exception of the fire drill, should be required learning.
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1-8 on the list.
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How about RESPECT?
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My grandfather made sure I could do all those things except swim well before age 12. Swimming was never considered important as we never did any real recreation around water except fishing and that was done from the shore. As for gardening I was helping out in the garden at age 5. I also learned to shoot at that age and was hunting and camping at age 6. We lived on small rural farms raising all our own food. I was even helping butcher hogs at age 9. Learned to set traps at the same age.
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How to pull there pants up off there hips.. All of The Above... Atleast weed the Garden
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All except maybe the last one. And they should know some of that. My own boys could drive miles on the highway at age 12. And did.

Don't give me sh&%$t about my kids driving on the highway. My kids do what I instruct them to do.
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Should also add that I was taught to cook, sew, do laundry and even crochet by age 10. We didn't believe that skills were "boys" or "girls" skills only. Helped out a lot as a bachelor. Also when grandma got sick and needed gall bladder surgery when I was 10 I was able to do most of the household chores while she recovered. Being raised by my grandparents gave me a real leg up on survival skills that most people today don't have.
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All of the above.

Know how to... by age

How to get home 6-8 depending on the kid
Build a fire 8-10
Cross a street 8
Swim 8-10
Fish or Hunt 10 and up depending on the kid
Gun safety 6
First aid 10
Fire drills 6-8
Change a tire 10
Grow a garden 10 and up depending on the kid
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Good one Snoman. Makes me think what skills I want to make sure my 12 year old knows. I would say all but the last one by the time they are twelve. We have to have four snow tires on every winter here in Sweden. He might not be able to do it all by himself, but he knows what has to be done and has seen it done enough.
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I have to say I'm stunned. As of this writing, "gun safety" is the most important skill in the poll. I'm not saying I disagree, but I am definitely surprised that so many people voted this way.

@neo: I'm sure some of this will vary by location, but like a previous member said, some of these skills are not just about the skill, but the confidence.

@slick75 and others: I thought long and hard about multiple choices, but in the end I wanted to see what people would choose if forced to a single choice. But I agree that a short list of prioritized items is useful.
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You forgot the distinctive sound an AK-47 makes

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And....I did have to teach my wife's idiot 25 yr old son how to change a tire.
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