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Rimfire rifle 4 12.12%
Rimfire handgun 1 3.03%
Centerfire rifle 11 33.33%
Centerfire handgun 4 12.12%
Shotgun 3 9.09%
Combo: rimfire over shotgun 4 12.12%
Combo: centerfire over shotgun 5 15.15%
Other: please explain 1 3.03%
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Old 05-24-2020, 07:17 PM
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MARLIN short bbl 1895 in .45-70.
Oversize loop, front scout mount. A little bit of everything for loads.
From my home made shot cartridges to 500gr Hammerheads.
Tain't nuth'n on this planet ya can't kill with that.
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MARLIN short bbl 1895 in .45-70.
Oversize loop, front scout mount. A little bit of everything for loads.
From my home made shot cartridges to 500gr Hammerheads.
Tain't nuth'n on this planet ya can't kill with that.
What does a 500 grainer do to a rabbit at 25 yards?
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What does a 500 grainer do to a rabbit at 25 yards?
Depends on where you hit it.
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What does a 500 grainer do to a rabbit at 25 yards?
WELL, I can tell what they do to a red squirrel.

I had just received a box of the Hammerheads and was seeing where they print when a rogue red squirrel charged me. He broke cover at only about 30 feet, Visions of the white rabbit from IN SEARCH OF THE HOLY GRAIL flashed in my mind as I drew down, took a flash shot just as the crosshairs passed the nose.

I fired and I turned the charge. It crawled off into the bush where I waited for it to bleed out(hopefully) as I did not want to have to follow the spoor. Ten minutes later it gave its death bellow, had to be what a T-rex sounded like before man.

The damage was substantial in that it pretty well blew the guts out of it but it still had enough to drag itself ten yards into thick bush where it could ambush me, like its close kin, the cape buffalo if I was stupid enough to follow it up in that close quarter.

Actually I used to experiment a LOT at the loading bench I mean, you have no idea how fast you can move a 200 gr. bullet out of a 45-70
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I made up various shot loads to see how they would work. You could move a load of 6s quite smartly down the tube and have a fair chance of getting your game out to 25-30yds.

But, getting back to the red squirrel, it really did charge me, I have no clue what it was thinking and I did hit it while it was in charge mode. One of the most amazing shots I ever made.

If red squirrels got to the size of bears, no one would ever go into the woods again.
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ruger single six 22lr/wmr single action revolver. handy to carry, simple, built to last forever, accurate, concealable when going into town. lightweight ammo so can carry 2-300 rounds easily. where i might go there is no real threat of four legged apex predators, but maybe some smaller rabid mammals or wild dogs, and biped ferals, against which 22wmr is effective. as iím a fisherman rather than a hunter, rimfire is enough for small game.

i could go down to a 22lr only ruger wrangler but would bring some cci stingers specifically for protection. i like the heritage roughrider as a weekend plinker but i wouldnít trust it to hold up over an extended trip into the woods and fields.

all that said, a 20ga single shotgun with a variety of bird-, buck-shot and slugs, and even some barrel adaptors, is hard to pass up.


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all that said, a 20ga single shotgun with a variety of bird-, buck-shot and slugs, and even some barrel adaptors, is hard to pass up.
Thanks for the reminder.......This is a viable choice in some areas....IMHO.

I have about 16 of those adaptors.......and although they get an undeserved bad rap in the gun community, they have an application, and this is one of them.

Ninety-nine percent of the internet experts who badmouth adaptors, not only have never done personal testing, they have never even touched or viewed one other then a photo.

They are not without limitations, but for there size and weight have some prudent applications.
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I'm not a hunter and have done much shorter backpacking--I carried .357 Ruger GP100 in Sierra, and S & W 629 .44 mag in AK. Fishing provided the protein needed. 10 rounds in speed loaders, with rounds in the chamber. would be more than enough. Weight is a factor for backpacking as is mobility.
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I second the choice of the Savage mod. 24. But, my cal. of choice is the .22 over a 20 gauge. That way I can choose a variety of gameloads, buckshot, and slugs for the 20 gauge, and lots of .22 ammo. Mine is set up with a pouch attached to the stock that has built in shell holders and room for .22 ammo. The .20 gauge slug should be enough punch for any big game in the lower 48. A .357 side arm would be desirable to also have along for self defense, whenever it might be allowed, and the mod. 24 would be the breadwinner or meat getter.
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I have a savage 24 30-30 over 20 ga. It is on the heavy side for back packing. Great weapon and versatile. but heavy. A friend had one in 222 over 20. He put two slugs into a black bear. It went down. We skinned and carried out the skin. He wasted the meat. for one person, small game is best. No waste and easier to find. Another concept is a contender with a 45/410 barrel. But again, weight is an issue. If this is a one time trip, just grab a 22 pistol and box of ammo out of the safe and call it good. If it is the first of many, I suggest do a couple of shake down trips the find something that meets your needs.
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Another option is the H&R survivor that chambers both the .410 shot shell and the .45 Long Colt, which can be equal or hotter then .44 Mag. (single shot would require large gonads in Alaska Brown Bear country).

Sadly they have no sights......but I figure to install a small'ish red dot on mine.
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Centerfire rifle, but the caliber would depend on which back country.
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I have two choices here, and I can’t make up my mind.

My first thought is where I grew up in Northern California. In that case, I would go for a single shot 20 gauge, with two boxes of #5 birdshot and 5 slugs. I’ve killed a lot of critters with #5 birdshot in my old 20 gauge. And I like the single shot, break action guns. I just do.

My second option would be in the Bitterroots of Montana (which is where i spent the past four day weekend). If I were going to be there for 6-8 weeks, you can bet your butt I’d be killing a big bull elk, so my rifle would be a pre-64 Model 70 in 300 H&H. Why that set up? Simple: I like pre-64 Model 70s, and I’ve been wanting a 300 H&H for the cool factor.
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A 40# pack is heavy but doable. 50# is very heavy and not always doable. Do you really want 25% of your back to be a firearm and ammo? Remember the food, bedding,cooking equipment and other stuff you will be carrying. Think real heard before you load up that pack. I remember guys taking the batteries out of their flashlights to lighten the pack.
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22 Rifle, 22 Pistol, 357 magnum, 20 ga shotgun
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Plus food, shelter and ammo for 6-8 weeks?
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Plus food, shelter and ammo for 6-8 weeks?
Yes, That is my standard load out for long term camping trips in dangerous areas. The 20 ga is a self defense weapon. The 357 is also for that purpose with 18 rounds of bird shot in 38, and 50 rounds of 158 grain for other predators. 500 rounds of 22 lr for the other pistol and the rifle. If I am going for 6-8 weeks, I will have my INCH bag and other gear on my Monowalker bugout cart.
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Plus food, shelter and ammo for 6-8 weeks?
No problem if you have been caching everything you could ever need for 6-8 "MONTHS"........(not weeks that is for sissy's).....
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Going with a Winchester 94 carbine in 30-30. I like the size to weight ratio, and the effectiveness of that cartridge. Mechanically itís a simple gun with few reliability issues.
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Back when I used to backpack, my longest trip was just over three weeks.
My choice for that odyssey would be the same now, with some more ammo added.

A Smith model 66 .357 mag with a 4" barrel.
50 rounds of .38 wadcutters and 50 rounds of 158gr hard cast semi wadcutters.
I have taken rabbits, squirrels, grouse and deer with this combination.

Anything more, is just gonna be to heavy and unwieldy for that long, at least for me.
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Yes, That is my standard load out for long term camping trips in dangerous areas. The 20 ga is a self defense weapon. The 357 is also for that purpose with 18 rounds of bird shot in 38, and 50 rounds of 158 grain for other predators. 500 rounds of 22 lr for the other pistol and the rifle. If I am going for 6-8 weeks, I will have my INCH bag and other gear on my Monowalker bugout cart.
You guys are just too macho for me. I don't know that this old man could carry 20 pounds very far.
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