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Old 04-25-2020, 01:16 AM
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I bet you none of those health cares workers are wearing all that stuff when just walking down the street outside though. That is a hospital environment, we are talking more about just people being out and about. I understand how easily contamination can occur, but realistically, how much of a virus is going to be on the ground outside in the first place? Then it has to survive on the bottom of your shoe until it transfers some where else, and some how ends up in your mouth or something.
Realistically? With this virus? Well, considering my precautionary measures to reduce my chances of infection is so simple and easy, I don't mind taking the extra trouble. I want to minimize the chances of this virus getting into my vehicle, my home, and my vacuum cleaner.

This same principle applies when I give my dog a rabies shot. The chances of him actually being exposed to rabies are pretty slim, but a decent level protection is cheap and easy enough, so I do it.

This particular virus, like rabies, has no cure but minimizing the chances of me and mine being infected is well worth the trouble.

I do notice how other countries are taking drastic measures to sanitize public spaces, though.

The end of the matter is: you do you, and I'll do me, lol.
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Per the BBC paraphrased from audio...

In the winter when you see smoke from your breathing that is tiny droplets of moisture from your body. It can contain the virus.

In humid weather the air is more saturated with water and breath moisture (with any virus in it) joins with existing moisture in the air, is heavier and drops to the ground quicker.


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Now, when the virus hits the ground will your shoes and legs be contaminated just from walking around?

Maybe this is what’s causing “COVID toes”.

I’m joking about the cause not the effect, look it up, it’s real apparently.
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Not just BBC... https://www.google.com/search?q=coro...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Scientists are taking a hard look into the possibility that the virus is more easily spread than commonly thought.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00974-w

Until they reach a solid conclusion, or until a remedy is found, I (along with many on this board) will not live in fear but will take reasonable precautions not to expose ourselves to something that could ruin our day.

What is sad: more than a few nay-sayers are making the news. They are being taken out by the virus they claimed to be so hyped up. Here's hoping that the nay-sayers here don't end up the same way.
So because someone writes an article telling you a scientist said it, that makes it more credible. Do you know the scientists personally? That article only mentions two people. But they're scientists right, who by nature are like super intelligent and 100% honest because they're scientists.

Listen, the virus ain't spreading through the air, nor is it crawling up your damn legs. Corona viruses have been a family of viruses for a very, very long time. Some of them, along with Rhinoviruses, are responsible for the common cold. We know what they can do and how they act.

So scientists pretending this particular one has some kind of superpowers are blowing smoke up your ass and NORMALLY they wouldn't get air time, or their name on a page anywhere. But media will dig through all the varying opinions of the hundreds of thousands of scientists worldwide for that one or two they think they can scare you with because, how dare you disagree with a "scientist."

It's BS. You know it, I know it.
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So because someone writes an article telling you a scientist said it, that makes it more credible. Do you know the scientists personally? That article only mentions two people. But they're scientists right, who by nature are like super intelligent and 100% honest because they're scientists.

Listen, the virus ain't spreading through the air, nor is it crawling up your damn legs. Corona viruses have been a family of viruses for a very, very long time. Some of them, along with Rhinoviruses, are responsible for the common cold. We know what they can do and how they act.

So scientists pretending this particular one has some kind of superpowers are blowing smoke up your ass and NORMALLY they wouldn't get air time, or their name on a page anywhere. But media will dig through all the varying opinions of the hundreds of thousands of scientists worldwide for that one or two they think they can scare you with because, how dare you disagree with a "scientist."

It's BS. You know it, I know it.
I, like most people, am not against looking at this bug from all angles and viewpoints. It is rather silly to think that scientists are godlike, as you must think some folks are supposing. But I sure do like them double-blind studies and stuff, lol.

This is a novel pathogen that has many features that are not yet known. Seems like every week we are learning something new about it. But, I'll be damned if I want to learn a single thing about this virus the hard way.

It is a shame, though, when every new theory pops up, the media runs with it before the idea is thoroughly tested and investigated...and people are swayed this way and that way and become disgusted when their pet ideas are proven to wrong. So of course, it makes sense to look at things with a jaundiced eye, and with an open mind.

Why does it seem to bother you so intensely when some of us chose to patiently stay out of harm's way until more is known about this virus?

Meanwhile, I hope you lighten up before you work yourself up into a stroke or something.
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Realistically? With this virus? Well, considering my precautionary measures to reduce my chances of infection is so simple and easy, I don't mind taking the extra trouble. I want to minimize the chances of this virus getting into my vehicle, my home, and my vacuum cleaner.
I am not saying don't do anything. I am just saying it probably isn't something to worry about that much. If you take your shoes off when you come inside then wash your hands, there is virtually no chance you are going to get sick from it. Covid inside the vacuum cleaner isn't something I would worry about.

I am slightly germophobic myself, so I can relate to over doing things a bit for peace of mind. As long as it isn't something time consuming or expensive, then there is no harm it being extra careful. However, it is possible to get carried away, to where you are wasting a ton of time looking at every possible precaution and causing yourself a lot of unneeded stress.
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... but realistically, how much of a virus is going to be on the ground outside in the first place? ...
On the ground outside? Probably not enough to worry about.

On the ground inside an enclosed environment (like a grocery store) where large swaths of the public walk, breath, talk, cough and sneeze? JMHO, better safe than sorry.
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In japan they not only switch to house slippers from street shoes, there are separate slippers you switch to in the bathroom.
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Ya know, if a simple cloth mask stopped the spread of a virus we wouldn't have biohazard labs workers in pressure suits.
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Per the BBC paraphrased from audio...

In the winter when you see smoke from your breathing that is tiny droplets of moisture from your body. It can contain the virus.

In humid weather the air is more saturated with water and breath moisture (with any virus in it) joins with existing moisture in the air, is heavier and drops to the ground quicker.


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Now, when the virus hits the ground will your shoes and legs be contaminated just from walking around?
Yes. It's as simple as you think it is. Basic physics and biology.

Probability wise... no one can tell you how many sides those dice have when you throw them. There's countless variables about how likely your shoes are to have Wuhan Virus on them. So I dunno. Personally I play it safe though. I either spray them with disinfectant or I use a disinfectant step pan.
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