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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Says She Will Run For President In 2020.



Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) has settled speculation about her political ambitions with her announcement that she’ll run for president in the 2020 election.
“I have decided to run and will be making a formal announcement within the next week,” Gabbard told CNN’s Van Jones during an interview scheduled to air at 7 p.m. Saturday.


Going to be a crowded horse race.




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THIS IS NOT GOOD NEWS!

I wasn't too pleased to hear about this. I've seen this woman on Fox News and she comes across as a moderate, reasonable Democrat. Charismatic, smart, rational and attractive. And she served in combat (I think she was a pilot). I think I saw her on Tucker Carlson and I forget what the issue was about, but she was on his side!



She's "intersectional": a woman, and mixed American-Samoan, and she's a Hindu, not a Christian, so she checks the identity boxes the Dems will be looking for.

The Dem primary field will be crowded and the one who stands out the most will win the nomination. Well, most of the people running will be fighting to be as far left as possible, and she won't be. She'll sound like the only normal person running. For that reason, she will stand out and may get the nomination. Because she is moderately left of center and not completely whacko like most of the Dems who will run, she will get a lot of independent votes and has a really good chance of winning.

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Rania Batrice, who was a deputy campaign manager for Sanders in 2016, said she will be Gabbard's campaign manager.
If I had to predict right now, I'd say she wins the nomination and it's a 60-40 chance she beats Trump.

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I hope they put up 30 people. For starters, it will spread donations thinner and they will shark attack each other to pieces.

Sadly we saw the opposite in 2016 with the Dems, and Hillary was anointed.

Next, it should in theory create the "best" candidate so even if we get stuck with a Dem it will be the "best" most centrist Dem. (Of course they all suck and are all liars and will lie to win, but in theory....).

I hope Trump brings back his base which he is losing, and is able to prevail for the next 2 years and get re-elected. We'll see.
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This just in Hilarity is ahead in the poles 50 points. The DNC hasn't addressed the Clinton corruption, anybody can run but who is counting the votes and more important the money.

You can also bet the dirty tricks and deep research will be in full mode. Better that you never spit on the sidewalk or committed some other serious crime.
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Because she's somewhat moderate, she'll get eaten alive in the Dim primaries.
She has no real name recognition, no real record, doesn't have a large native constituency like someone from CA, TX, NY, or FL would.

I think she's one of the better Dims out there (not saying much), but she's still pretty liberal, and won't play well in fly over country or the Steel Belt.

Stranger things have happened, but I think the Dims will have too many women this time for that to be something 'different.' With 20+ vying for the top spot they'll all kind of wash each other out.
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Stranger things have happened, but I think the Dims will have too many women this time for that to be something 'different.' With 20+ vying for the top spot they'll all kind of wash each other out.
Bernie, Biden, and Beto will drop out early, as they are all privileged white males and/or too old.

Elizabeth Warren, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, et al will all be nearly identical in their identities and policies, and Cory Booker and the beta males like him will be exactly the same, but male. So them and everyone like them will be lost in a sea of extreme leftism.

(AOC will be too young to run, if anyone wonders).

So being a woman isn't the thing that will make Gabbard stand out.

She'll refrain from personal attacks but hammer all the others' policy positions that are based purely on identity politics or emotion, which actual reasons to support (reasons that we may disagree with, but many people won't). She's savvy on international affairs and has actual experience fighting wars. For those reasons she will come out looking like the only one with any class or brains, and that is what will make her stand out to the voters. (Plus the fact that she is fairly hot for a woman her age!)

Normally the nail that sticks out gets hammered down, but in crowded primaries it's what attracts voters. This is one reason we got Trump.

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Julian Castro's running.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/12/u...-announce.html

Barring unforeseeable circumstances, that's it. Game over. Trump can go back to selling real estate, the other Democrats can go back to whatever they're doing, we need to start practicing saying "President Castro" for at least eight years, and maybe longer.

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Julian Castro's running.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/12/u...-announce.html

Barring unforeseeable circumstances, that's it. Game over. Trump can go back to selling real estate, the other Democrats can go back to whatever they're doing, we need to start practicing saying "President Castro" for at least eight years, and maybe longer.

Never heard of him until now. Having seen a spot on the news this morning he does not strike me as a person that stands any chance of being the D's party nominee. No charisma. Nor does the Hawaiian lady who is the subject of the OP. Very minor league politicians that do not have any national name recognition or following.

The Democrat nominee is likely to be Biden. If he does not run I would think that fellow from Texas (Beto?) would be a likely choice. I do not know a lot about him either but the fellow does have charisma and could garner a following.
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Never heard of him until now. Having seen a spot on the news this morning he does not strike me as a person that stands any chance of being the D's party nominee. No charisma. Nor does the Hawaiian lady who is the subject of the OP. Very minor league politicians that do not have any national name recognition or following.

The Democrat nominee is likely to be Biden. If he does not run I would think that fellow from Texas (Beto?) would be a likely choice. I do not know a lot about him either but the fellow does have charisma and could garner a following.
I agree. I think it will be Biden. He comes off as a moderate, and although he is another compulsive liar, he has kept a fairly low profile and the media loves him.
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I hope Biden runs.. Plenty of videos out there of him fondling little girls.
But in the end, Socialism will win just from the growing population in the cities.
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Never heard of him until now. Having seen a spot on the news this morning he does not strike me as a person that stands any chance of being the D's party nominee. No charisma. Nor does the Hawaiian lady who is the subject of the OP. Very minor league politicians that do not have any national name recognition or following.

The Democrat nominee is likely to be Biden. If he does not run I would think that fellow from Texas (Beto?) would be a likely choice. I do not know a lot about him either but the fellow does have charisma and could garner a following.
The Castro brothers (American version) are big. And they're Hispanic in a way Ted Cruz can never be. Every eligible Latino in the US, regardless of previous affiliation, will register and/or vote for him to make one of their own President, especially in the face of Donald Trump. And who on the left will be able to pass on the chance to put the first Hispanic in the White House, who is also a known advocate for LGBT rights? Barring news of sexual impropriety, assassination, or political out maneuvering by one of the other hundred or so Democrats running for the nomination, Castro should have it in the bag...

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Yep, I think the name Castro would have the same popular shock effect as Hussein.
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Seems to me the Democratic Party is more about running an incompetent
rock star than they are in doing what's best for the country. None of these candidates in their party would make a pimple on Donald's behind.
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I don't care who of the Democrats announce presidential candidacies. Nancy and Chuckles and the billionaires will decide who gets it and this time they will not allow a Bernie type campaign to get out of hand. The Politburo will prevail.
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The Castro brothers (American version) are big.
Sorry, but they are nobodies. Running on race might be popular in certain democratic circles, but unlike Obama that got to run after a very unpopular Bush presidency (and Obama only made it because too many despised Hillary for her corruption), they would not garner mainstream voters.

Maybe hoping for a VP pick if they don't alienate the insiders too much.
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Sorry, but they are nobodies. Running on race might be popular in certain democratic circles, but unlike Obama that got to run after a very unpopular Bush presidency (and Obama only made it because too many despised Hillary for her corruption), they would not garner mainstream voters.

Maybe hoping for a VP pick if they don't alienate the insiders too much.
We'll see. It is entirely possible his campaign will fizzle out, and someone neither of us have heard of will be the Democratic candidate. Which is often the way American politics goes.
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We'll see. It is entirely possible his campaign will fizzle out, and someone neither of us have heard of will be the Democratic candidate. Which is often the way American politics goes.
Historically it doesn't often happen that way. However Hillary Clinton's political runs did result in two rather unlikely victories, Obama and now Trump. I don't think either would have won without her. Now if this Castro dude could get Hillary to run against him he might have a chance for a 3-pete.
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THIS IS NOT GOOD NEWS!
I wasn't too pleased to hear about this. I've seen this woman on Fox News and she comes across as a moderate, reasonable Democrat. Charismatic, smart, rational and attractive. And she served in combat (I think she was a pilot). I think I saw her on Tucker Carlson and I forget what the issue was about, but she was on his side!
1. She's in the Hawaian National Guard and has been since 2003. She joined while a state rep and during her tour of duty in Iraq (volunteered, member of combat medical team), resigned from the government after given a choice of returning to politics or staying in Iraq.

2. She's still in the Guard and one of few members of Congress who are in uniform. During a time when so many party chicken hawks blab about "boots on the ground", they or their children avoid military service. She hasn't and doesn't.

3. She's opposed to the generational draining of American troop's blood for foreign intervention supported by both political parties.

4. She's one of the few Democrats who openly met with Trump while president-elect. She was slammed by her party. There was unofficial talk of Trump asking her to join his administration.

5. The Democratic Party is attacking her viciously already along with the usual neocon war hawks bent on killing more American service members for third world trash.

https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/stat...mocratic-party

I hate the Democrat Party and hate Democrats even more. But she is definitely different. If she wins, she'll immediately be corrupted by Pelosi and Schumer, but no more than Trump has been by the RINO party of Flake, McCain, etc. And she's better than Ocasio-Cortez, Clinton, Kamel, Warren and the other fake women claiming to represent the U.S.

End of the day, she'll be primaried, but she represents something different than what the Democratic Party produces in the Marx Clone Factory.
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