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Old 09-06-2019, 03:00 PM
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For you who do not subscribe to the Shreekers of the Manmade Church of Global Warming and Taxation. NASA just released report in June 2019. Of course not carried by the State Owned Media and Propagandists. As it is counter to Global Warming Hysteria. Hidden in the report it says that the Sun in the next cycle will be the weakest output in 200 YEARS. In other words if you think the Sun actually keeps us warm instead of 3% atmospheric content of an obscure gas called CO2, best be getting ready for very cold record breaking weather Globally. The Watts per M. are going to plummet. Our asses are going to freeze and there will probably be food shortages..Quote From Report “Research now underway may have found a reliable new method to predict this solar activity. The Sun’s activity rises and falls in an 11-year cycle. The forecast for the next solar cycle says it will be the weakest of the last 200 years. The maximum of this next cycle – measured in terms of sunspot number, a standard measure of solar activity level – could be 30 to 50% lower than the most recent one. The results show that the next cycle will start in 2020 and reach its maximum in 2025.” Research Maunder Minimum.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/ames/so...or-exploration
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For you who do not subscribe to the Shreekers of the Manmade Church of Global Warming and Taxation. NASA just released report in June 2019. Of course not carried by the State Owned Media and Propagandists. As it is counter to Global Warming Hysteria. Hidden in the report it says that the Sun in the next cycle will be the weakest output in 200 YEARS. In other words if you think the Sun actually keeps us warm instead of 3% atmospheric content of an obscure gas called CO2, best be getting ready for very cold record breaking weather Globally. The Watts per M. are going to plummet. Our asses are going to freeze and there will probably be food shortages..Quote From Report “Research now underway may have found a reliable new method to predict this solar activity. The Sun’s activity rises and falls in an 11-year cycle. The forecast for the next solar cycle says it will be the weakest of the last 200 years. The maximum of this next cycle – measured in terms of sunspot number, a standard measure of solar activity level – could be 30 to 50% lower than the most recent one. The results show that the next cycle will start in 2020 and reach its maximum in 2025.” Research Maunder Minimum.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/ames/so...or-exploration
Been saying for years we are headed towards a mini ice age, peeps gonna freez'in their butts off...
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For you who do not subscribe to the Shreekers of the Manmade Church of Global Warming and Taxation. NASA just released report in June 2019. Of course not carried by the State Owned Media and Propagandists. As it is counter to Global Warming Hysteria. Hidden in the report it says that the Sun in the next cycle will be the weakest output in 200 YEARS. In other words if you think the Sun actually keeps us warm instead of 3% atmospheric content of an obscure gas called CO2, best be getting ready for very cold record breaking weather Globally. The Watts per M. are going to plummet. Our asses are going to freeze and there will probably be food shortages..Quote From Report “Research now underway may have found a reliable new method to predict this solar activity. The Sun’s activity rises and falls in an 11-year cycle. The forecast for the next solar cycle says it will be the weakest of the last 200 years. The maximum of this next cycle – measured in terms of sunspot number, a standard measure of solar activity level – could be 30 to 50% lower than the most recent one. The results show that the next cycle will start in 2020 and reach its maximum in 2025.” Research Maunder Minimum.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/ames/so...or-exploration
When I was getting ready to retire, I already knew I wanted to sell out and leave California.
I could move somewhere cold and expect climate change to warm it up, or move somewhere hot and expect it to cool off.
I decided global temps had already peaked in 1998, and the future would likely be cooler.
I hope it does not get as cold as the Little Ice Age, but that is still possible.
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Been saying for years we are headed towards a mini ice age, peeps gonna freez'in their butts off...
Yup, we work our way into and out of them. The global climate jihadist don't seem to understand that..
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For you who do not subscribe to the Shreekers of the Manmade Church of Global Warming and Taxation. NASA just released report in June 2019. Of course not carried by the State Owned Media and Propagandists. As it is counter to Global Warming Hysteria. Hidden in the report it says that the Sun in the next cycle will be the weakest output in 200 YEARS. In other words if you think the Sun actually keeps us warm instead of 3% atmospheric content of an obscure gas called CO2, best be getting ready for very cold record breaking weather Globally. The Watts per M. are going to plummet. Our asses are going to freeze and there will probably be food shortages..Quote From Report “Research now underway may have found a reliable new method to predict this solar activity. The Sun’s activity rises and falls in an 11-year cycle. The forecast for the next solar cycle says it will be the weakest of the last 200 years. The maximum of this next cycle – measured in terms of sunspot number, a standard measure of solar activity level – could be 30 to 50% lower than the most recent one. The results show that the next cycle will start in 2020 and reach its maximum in 2025.” Research Maunder Minimum.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/ames/so...or-exploration

Did you read your own link? Apparently not.

The NASA predictions are about SPACE weather and forecasting optimum times for space missions. It says absolutely NOTHING about predicting weather and climate cycles on Earth, either hot or cold.

The leap you make is completely unsupported by this study.
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I've heard the before. It will be interesting to see if we experience longer, colder winters.

If the prediction comes true we could see food shortages due shorter growing seasons. I'm hoping that doesn't happen as with the Democratic parties main focus, along with the press on promoting the theory of man made global warming, the opposite happening could catch us unprepared.
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For you who do not subscribe to the Shreekers of the Manmade Church of Global Warming and Taxation. NASA just released report in June 2019. Of course not carried by the State Owned Media and Propagandists. As it is counter to Global Warming Hysteria. Hidden in the report it says that the Sun in the next cycle will be the weakest output in 200 YEARS. In other words if you think the Sun actually keeps us warm instead of 3% atmospheric content of an obscure gas called CO2, best be getting ready for very cold record breaking weather Globally. The Watts per M. are going to plummet. Our asses are going to freeze and there will probably be food shortages..Quote From Report “Research now underway may have found a reliable new method to predict this solar activity. The Sun’s activity rises and falls in an 11-year cycle. The forecast for the next solar cycle says it will be the weakest of the last 200 years. The maximum of this next cycle – measured in terms of sunspot number, a standard measure of solar activity level – could be 30 to 50% lower than the most recent one. The results show that the next cycle will start in 2020 and reach its maximum in 2025.” Research Maunder Minimum.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/ames/so...or-exploration
It is the sun plus "greenhouse" gasses. If it was just the sun, the moon would be plenty warm. Instead the moon fluctuates between -280 and +260.

The atmosphere shields and buffers us from the sun, while smoothing out temperature fluctuations.

The most significant greenhouse gases are water vapor (H2O), carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4) and nitrous oxide (N2O)

Both theories can be true. Low solar output may reduce global warming even with rising greenhouse gasses.
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I've heard the before. It will be interesting to see if we experience longer, colder winters.

If the prediction comes true we could see food shortages due shorter growing seasons. I'm hoping that doesn't happen as with the Democratic parties main focus, along with the press on promoting the theory of man made global warming, the opposite happening could catch us unprepared.
well to be fair it is climate change now, so any extreme weather event is confirmation bias for "climate change".
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Did you read your own link? Apparently not.

The NASA predictions are about SPACE weather and forecasting optimum times for space missions. It says absolutely NOTHING about predicting weather and climate cycles on Earth, either hot or cold.

The leap you make is completely unsupported by this study.
How is your comprehension? If the sun is putting out less heat meaning less Watts per meter are reaching the earth's surface, does logic not say it will be colder. It is not illegal to think for yourself yet. Let's try this, if you are in a room with a raging hot wood stove and it is -50F outside and I let the stove out. No more heat from stove. And you are sitting in the corner farting CO2 will that keep you warm.
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It is the sun plus "greenhouse" gasses. If it was just the sun, the moon would be plenty warm. Instead the moon fluctuates between -280 and +260.

The atmosphere shields and buffers us from the sun, while smoothing out temperature fluctuations.

The most significant greenhouse gases are water vapor (H2O), carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4) and nitrous oxide (N2O)

Both theories can be true. Low solar output may reduce global warming even with rising greenhouse gasses.
No you are wrong. 97% of CO2 is from natural earth cycles. They estimate 3% estimate because they can not measure accurately the 3% of the whole earths atmosphere. So if the Sun suddenly went out would the 3% co2 keep earth warm, would the earth continue to get warmer. It is not illegal to think.
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Did you read your own link? Apparently not.

The NASA predictions are about SPACE weather and forecasting optimum times for space missions. It says absolutely NOTHING about predicting weather and climate cycles on Earth, either hot or cold.

The leap you make is completely unsupported by this study.
There is a strong causation between solar activity and changes in global temps.
This was originally found and described in the mid 1960s, but if you need to, go ahead and catch up.
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That's probably why the lunatic left is now calling it "climate change" instead of global warming, this way they will have all their bases covered when they come for your money.
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As always, our star is a variable star. This has been known for some time. 9-12 year sunspot cycles are just a pattern of short cycles buried in a series of very long cycles. Individuals don't live long enough to "notice" the longer cycles.

We know of century (100 year) long cycles, and strongly suspect there are multi century long cycles.







Total solar irradiance in Watts per Square Meter:




Additionally, the actual direct solar irradiance at the top of the atmosphere fluctuates by about 6.9% during a year (from 1.412 kW/m˛ in early January to 1.321 kW/m˛ in early July) due to the Earth's varying distance from the Sun. And even this cycle changes markedly. This is due to the gravitational influence of other planets and other factors.

The dates when Earth reaches the extreme points on its orbit are not fixed because of the variations in its eccentricity. In 1246, the December Solstice was on the same day as the Earth reached its Perihelion. Since then, the Perihelion and Aphelion dates have drifted by a day every 58 years. In the short-term, the dates can vary up to 2 days from one year to another.

As an amateur astronomer, I highly doubt we have changed the temperature of the Earth by any appreciable or measurable amount. Instead, other factors control our fate.
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How is your comprehension? If the sun is putting out less heat meaning less Watts per meter are reaching the earth's surface, does logic not say it will be colder. It is not illegal to think for yourself yet. Let's try this, if you are in a room with a raging hot wood stove and it is -50F outside and I let the stove out. No more heat from stove. And you are sitting in the corner farting CO2 will that keep you warm.


Hahaha! I don’t have anything productive to add, just wanted to say this made my day.

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There is a strong causation between solar activity and changes in global temps.
This was originally found and described in the mid 1960s, but if you need to, go ahead and catch up.

Actually, the science makes the opposite claim. We've learned a lot since the 60's, since we have much better methods of obtaining and analyzing data.



http://heliophysics.com/documents/ApJ2015pdf.pdf


https://phys.org/news/2017-03-sun-im...uantified.html


https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...limate-change/
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The situational complexity far exceeds the solar output. Above I mentioned Earth's varying orbit, but failed to mention the wildly differing land masses on the upper vs. lower hemispheres. Antarctica, a large land southern land mass receives little solar irradiation. It's understood to be much like arctic ice. Fact: When the Earth is closer to the sun and the Northern hemisphere is tilted towards the sun, far more heating happens.

Earth's orbit, and land mass play such a large role in temperature. I've yet to see a viable calculation of the heat each individual area produces. Also cloud obscuration varies wildly by location and by decade.

Despite all the claims, we don't understand the situation. Over time the climate has changed markedly. There is no reason to think it will remain steady now.

This is no reason to trash the Earth, we do need much improvement on that front. But don't tell me that electric cars make a difference. Home and business energy consumption far outstrips automotive. The green new deal means NO HEAT up North. Period, end of story. The NE quadrant of the USA consumes more energy heating homes and businesses than all the nations cars consume.
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"It is the sun plus "greenhouse" gasses... water vapor (H2O), carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4) and nitrous oxide (N2O)"

Um, no. You obviously never took physics or chemistry.
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Sun & climate: moving in opposite directions
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Hmmm,

I was talking to the wife, we can't remember when the weather has been so hot here in the FL house. In past we had to use the fireplace in our houses in Miami, Tallahassee, and CFL. No longer, I can't remember last time I fired it up.

The 11 year cycle would be interesting to back track vs average temps. All I can say is it is pretty hot here.

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Damn. I was hoping for a new phase and a massive CME to cleanse the plant.

You're telling me I have to put up with Libtards for the foreseeable future?

I guess I can always hope for multiple emps's from China, NK or Iran..or if we are lucky, a planet killer asteroid strike.
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