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Old 11-01-2019, 01:31 AM
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No wonder you're ex army lol.

In the army patrolling with a full load out was standard.

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Full load for the last 40 years or so (my entire 28) was 210 rounds. (7 x 30 rd mags) NOT 500 of one caliber, plus 1,000 of another.

Also, even if you did have your pack with sustainment load... it wasn't a pack AND a large duffle bag. It was an ALICE (med or lge) or a MOLLE, or ILBE if a Marine... but you don't patrol with no dufflebag in one hand, and a weapon in the other, plus the pack, plus 3 times normal ammo load...


In Iraq in 04-05 we had double issue of ammo. That was heavy enough that a lot of guys left the second load in a vehicle. I got SAW pouches, and had 6 per side on my body armor, 1 in the gun, and 1 in a pouch on the stock.

Me: 6' 1" 230 (solid muscle) mid 40s.
PFC 5' 10" 165 (skinny, but fit) mid 20s.

Me: "Throw my vest in the truck, I'll be right back."

PFC: "Sure thing Sarge." HOWEVER... 5 seconds later... "Holy ****, this thing is heavy."
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Nice to see everybody is prepared. We were an average family hit by a hurricane. We couldn’t use the back yard. It was a pile of broken jungle. Hanging trees. Snakes. Back door was unusable. House was 100 degrees. As far as my stuff that got stole, oh well. A grill, some chairs. You only have water for so long. Then you have to go look for it. I supported an elderly lady next door and her infant grandchild. What’s ****ed up is one night I ran into two guys in my driveway. Pitch black dog barked and I saw his cigarette. They kept saying “can I come over there” “I’m coming over there” ..... homos. Freaken homos wanting bunny mans crippled fat butt. That ain’t happening. I let the husky go and she chased them down the street. But I’ll be dammed if they didn’t come back. Next time I had two dogs and a .357. Dog had them dancen in the middle of the street. And I kindly asked them not to come back.
The whole storm/event made me evaluate our vulnerability. We had two weeks of food and water but we ended up supporting others. Others didn’t have ****. We survived. But in a big shtf? Mmmm .
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OP - the US Army and USMC are recruiting every day of the week. Get out of moms basement an go learn some stuff FIRST HAND.
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Im 62 now . 30 - 30 rd mags for a dug in position sure but that plus water, plates and all the other trimmings now would be too much now for patrolling .
Too much for anyone with a brain that is going out on a patrol. Is of the throw it in/on. Might need that kitchen sink.
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Im 62 now . 30 - 30 rd mags for a dug in position sure but that plus water, plates and all the other trimmings now would be too much now for patrolling .
They have lighter plates these days. Oh, and I designated my son as the ammo-mule; he's too young, proud, and stupid to realize how heavy all that crap is. I just tell him he's a wussy, and he'll carry my spare ammo to prove his point and help prove my older wisdon

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Full load for the last 40 years or so (my entire 28) was 210 rounds. (7 x 30 rd mags) NOT 500 of one caliber, plus 1,000 of another.

Also, even if you did have your pack with sustainment load... it wasn't a pack AND a large duffle bag. It was an ALICE (med or lge) or a MOLLE, or ILBE if a Marine... but you don't patrol with no dufflebag in one hand, and a weapon in the other, plus the pack, plus 3 times normal ammo load...


In Iraq in 04-05 we had double issue of ammo. That was heavy enough that a lot of guys left the second load in a vehicle. I got SAW pouches, and had 6 per side on my body armor, 1 in the gun, and 1 in a pouch on the stock.

Me: 6' 1" 230 (solid muscle) mid 40s.
PFC 5' 10" 165 (skinny, but fit) mid 20s.

Me: "Throw my vest in the truck, I'll be right back."

PFC: "Sure thing Sarge." HOWEVER... 5 seconds later... "Holy ****, this thing is heavy."
What does any of this have to do with me jabbing at exarmyguy lol.



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OP - the US Army and USMC are recruiting every day of the week. Get out of moms basement an go learn some stuff FIRST HAND.
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Of the few different AR10 types I have evaluated along with a few " Military " versions used at work, I would agree with you on this point. ( With that said, we have a GAP10 that will out shoot anything that the Military I work for has ever issued)
Do you have any opinions or experience with LMTs version of the AR10? It is supposedly used by several militaries (Britain, NZ, etc). How would you say it stacks up to a Scar-H?
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Do you have any opinions or experience with LMTs version of the AR10? It is supposedly used by several militaries (Britain, NZ, etc). How would you say it stacks up to a Scar-H?
Sorry, but no first hand use with an L129.......although I found the British concept behind it interesting, and would agree with thier way of thinking due to thier logistics support ( lack of).

I would have went with their 18 inch chromelined bbl instead of the 16 due to the role it is utilized for and the ammunition the Brits are using thru it.

Note: This is a full on SDMR btw. The SCARH is not imo.

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They have lighter plates these days. Oh, and I designated my son as the ammo-mule; he's too young, proud, and stupid to realize how heavy all that crap is. I just tell him he's a wussy, and he'll carry my spare ammo to prove his point and help prove my older wisdon
Brilliant. We can do this the easy way or the hard way. He made his choice.
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Just finished that ENTIRE thread. I'm old too and all my gear practically stll reeked of jungle rot (early 80s). Everything sucked compared to now but our loadout was 6+1 plus my medic bags. We were *strongly encouraged* to carry a standard weapon and gear with no medic markings. Heavy as hell at 18 yo. Gotta admit that those days are hazy now. Mostly I tried not to be too stupid and get my collrge fund squared away.

My question to thr OP: why do you want a military loadout? Why overthink your weapons or over pay? Go for servicable and good optics, invest the rest in training snd practice. Logistics are everyday in SHTF, trigger time isnt. Clean water and good grub are just as important. Good opsec and medical are probably more important than one set of weapons. You need buds to watch your back and lay down cover fire. Extra ARs, LBEs and water filters are a better use of cash. Shotguns and .38 revolvers are too because anyone can use thrm, and both are cheap at pawnshops.

Not telling you how to live, brother. Just adding some ideas. I started prepping when our kids were kids. Even a kid can shoot an AR and a .38 effectively. Thats a poorboy force multiplier.
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Sorry, but no first hand use with an L129.......although I found the British concept behind it interesting, and would agree with thier way of thinking due to thier logistics support ( lack of).

I would have went with their 18 inch chromelined bbl instead of the 16 due to the role it is utilized for and the ammunition the Brits are using thru it.

Note: This is a full on SDMR btw. The SCARH is not imo.

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Please excuse my ignorance but im a civie. what does SDMR stand for?
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The United States Army Squad Designated Marksman Rifle (SDM-R) is a heavily modified M16-series semi-automatic rifle intended to provide increased accuracy at longer ranges, giving infantry squads greater firepower.
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The United States Army Squad Designated Marksman Rifle (SDM-R) is a heavily modified M16-series semi-automatic rifle intended to provide increased accuracy at longer ranges, giving infantry squads greater firepower.
We never used the term when I was active duty, think it's a fairly recent acronym.

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One thing I dont miss is all the stupid acronyms the military used.
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One thing I dont miss is all the stupid acronyms the military used.
Agreed.

Also don't miss mandatory daily shaving outside of relaxed grooming situations, waking up at 4 every day, and not having the freedom of choosing my own haircut.

We can add stupid formations too. As well as "hurry up and wait". A gazillion shots before deployments I don't miss either.

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The United States Army Squad Designated Marksman Rifle (SDM-R) is a heavily modified M16-series semi-automatic rifle intended to provide increased accuracy at longer ranges, giving infantry squads greater firepower.


every Marine with a rifle is a SDM



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One thing I dont miss is all the stupid acronyms the military used.
Working for the Germans now; we have plenty to fill in the void.
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no one knows all the acronyms the army uses, especially people in the Army. Theres a special place in hell for staff officers who push out orders with acronyms throughout, which dont spell out the full meaning the first time they're used.
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FN SCAR 17
SEALs ditched them in Afghanistan and went back to M4's.

SCAR needs some more iterations before it's trustworthy for experienced troops.

Gun loves to FtF and FtE in combat. Average is more than once per mag in firefights. Shades of the first M16's in 'Nam.

Reciprocating bolt handle totally blows. Grab the magwell in a tight move and you'll beat your thumb to a nub.

It's a bulky heavy pig for CQB. If you are going to lug all that into combat, just grab a 240 instead.

If you just want 7.62 NATO then go AR10 or M1A, because the SCAR needs another decade in real war to shake out.
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