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Old 03-07-2019, 07:24 PM
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I will be using a SeekOutside Pack for an upcoming trip. They are expensive, but the build quality is excellent. While I love my ULA Circuit, ULA packs are limited by weight capacity; not a bad thing, but sucks if you need to haul extra water or food than usual.

I've been using their 4800 Unaweep just for "road marches" here in Afghanistan. They are actually an external frame pack/hybrid. I'm picking up the smaller (Circuit-sized) 3500 Gila pack as you can swap packs with the frame. The material is extremely robust (same as ULA Packs), but the key point for these are the frame strength and design to carry excessively heavy loads (originally designed as game hauling packs).

Most lightweight packs are limited not by capacity, but by pack weight. Once you exceed those "comfort" ratings, the pack becomes very uncomfortable and puts stresses on points not designed to sustain such loads.

So, I will try a pack about the same size and weight of my ULA Circuit, but capable of hauling a 100 pounds (not that I desire to carry that much!). I will be doing 105 miles without a resupply, so food weight will be more than I want to push on my Circuit. If anything, it will give me a good chance to put a solid review in on the smaller pack. The suspension is awesome; stable, but good mobility and most importantly, comfortable. I had about 65 pounds in the 4800 pack, and while I wasn't able to knock out 12-15 miles a day for several days, I did get a good feel for the fit of SeekOutside's suspension system. Heavy pack weights suck (which is why I continue to push towards being a lightweight backpacker), but purpose-designed suspension system makes a significant different in perceived weight and reduces fatigue over longer stretches.

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Take a look at Seek Outside's Revolution in either 4,800 or 6,300 ci. It enables you to pull the backpack bag away from the frame and put another bag between the frame and the backpack bag. It's principal use is for hauling meat after a kill but it can also be used to have a nondescript bag to carry other items.

I use it for carrying tools on occasion in the backcountry.

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Normally, nobody cares what you or your stuff look like, even if they notice you at all, that is.. If it's shtf, you dont want to be out and about during daylight hours, cause it'll be far too likely that you'll just get shot, regardless of what you look like. Naturally, in the dark, what sort of pack you have wont matter.
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Look at the range from Polish company, Helikon. Tough gear at good prices. https://www.helikon-tex.com/en_usd/b...backpacks.html
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Osprey does some very usable/useful bags!

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Anyone have any thoughts on bags that blend in? Donít have to be huge, just well built.

I just donít want my bag to be a target when someone looks. Aesthetics and fashion play little part in this need.
Blend-in in what kind of environment..? Blending-in in urban environment and forest environment require different colors and sometime design, that still not to mention the specific colors that is most common in the intended operating environment
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Look at the range from Polish company, Helikon. Tough gear at good prices. https://www.helikon-tex.com/en_usd/b...backpacks.html
Compare to Helikon Tex their subsidiary Direct Action made better backpack and focusing more on backpack and related accessories. Helikon-Tex is more about clothing's. I personally use Direct Action backpack and some others accessories from Helikon-Tex
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Blend-in in what kind of environment..? Blending-in in urban environment and forest environment require different colors and sometime design, that still not to mention the specific colors that is most common in the intended operating environment
At times it does, but my medium brown Osprey urban/computer pack has been carried through many large cities via subway, bus, other public transit, taxis, Uber, airlines ect without ever having anyone look twice at it.

Since itís almost the same color as lots of deer it disappears in the woods quite easily!

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