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Ukraine certainly did exist in the 13th century, and interestingly the population (not that it was much) was Scandinavian. There was a significant trade route running along rivers from the Baltic to the Black Sea. (They had no compunction about trading slaves to the muslims.)

That trade route is why you see blonde "Russians" to this day.

Anybody who wants to know what Stalin did to Ukraine needs to look up the word "holodomor". Like Holocaust deniers, Russians still claim that it didn't happen, but it did. Ukrainians remember.
Coach, anyone who doubts the resolve of Ukraine should look up the history of the 44th battery, it was a series of underground bunkers that completely surround the capitol of Kiev in which the city of Kiev used to fight off and defeat and entire Nazi battalion. That to me is pure drive and ambition.
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Kinda like there were tons of Germans living in areas of Czechoslovakia in 1938? So it was essentially German?
In certain areas of Czechoslovakia, bear in mind it was a creation as a result of the breakup of Austria-Hungary - so not that great of an example it was never really "a country" it was throwing together two ethnic groups into a common union to weaken the previous powers of Austria. Britain at the time and most other places pretty much recognized that it should have been part of Germany, but Germany being an enemy state in WWI was given a rump of lands, bear in mind Germany was once much larger.. Germany itself being a composition of various Holy Roman Empire states, also an artificial creation of the 18th century. I know you like to look at it from what it is today, but Germany was a creation of the Napoleonic wars, and the rise of nationalism. (the German people however were very widespread as recognized by the romans as "Germania - the germans ostrogoths and Visigoths actually took over most of Europe and helped found many other European states) The idea of "cultural nations" was a creature of the 17th century. So yes, most certainly German speaking areas of Czechoslovakia, should have been part of a german nation, if the notion was to keep people of common cultures together. You know most of the issues of the 20th century were due to minority groups being persecuted, so obviously it didn't make sense to have a regions where the major groups were a minority.
Living in multiethnic communities now we like to look back and see segregation as a bad thing but it actually removes a lot of the conflict that can exist in an area.
The old world is still like that except where the british came in and used the divide and conquer system to draw national boundaries where ethnic groups could be aligned against one another to insure that they infought instead of fought the colonial power.




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Kinda like there are tons of muslims living in Kashmir? So it's essentially Pakistani?
Totally like that although the problem there is that there are Muslims all over India. There are Christians in India, there are muslims there are hindu and others. The big issue with Kashmir and Jammu is that India is religiously persecuting those people. Kashmir should just be given a referendum. Honestly if the goal was peace then yah probably it would be Pakistani.





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Well there are lots of cultures in Mexico, not simply "Mexican" there are a variety of ethnic groups in Mexico. Mexico is a "federal creation" much like germany, you know more or less you have ethnic groups, the dominant Mayan groups and European Mexicans.

America is special because it isn't really any specific culture but a hodgepodge. It was a wide mix of fringe religions, and castouts from Europe mostly, so its WASPy identity is watered down you know lots of German Americans that have no german identity, or British Americans that have no British identity. It is also pretty young a creature of the 18th century, its a colony, you know the land is first nations, so there is no real identity it has been changing ongoing. However there are lots of potentials for internal cultural contrasts especially with new immigrants who keep their cultural communities rather than melt in or assimilate. I think with the US you will see more cultural conflict as immigration continues to change the demographics even more.

None the less, if those land areas of states became "Mexican" culturally then it would make sense to make them part of Mexico, not unlike most of the US becoming American when local natives were conquered and colonists moved in to set up those states. The states themselves wouldn't be Mexican but much like the Americans conquered the land from the native tribes and Mexicans, the land would basically be conquered by "new age colonization".

The same thing is happening in Canada, with much of the "Canadian culture" being coopted by American culture. If that were to continue the difference of Canadian identity would be gone, and cultural national union would be possible --- leaving only political differences to be determined. IMO national boundaries are a matter of culture more so than politics, where as the internal power structures within national boundaries are political conflicts that are social and economic divisions.

So true new cultures can form as a result of social and economic differences, however these differences need to be widespread in specific areas such that the groups were segretated communities and were not codependent, nor have shared values, and lifeways. The communities essentially have to be linked to the other parts of the would be nation, and they would not be linked to the other "cultural/political" group for continuance of their ways of living.


Again I can understand your position from now looking at the past but it is ignorant of how these things actually came to exist and why they exist as they do. Now it is more about a narrative that supports it the way you want it to be to maintain power, not a realization of what allowed you to gain that power.


I can tell you really don't know how the world is comprised. Most of the "nations" the Russians, the Chinese, Indians, etc.. are tons of smaller cultural groups. They are/were Empires... we are seeing these proxy wars being used to create "mono cultural" groups, that will more easily be pieced into rival Empires. Its the same sort of idea we just use different language now.

Superstates, superpowers etc.. instead of Empire.

We are playing a time game now, so short of actual war I don't think it will matter much. Its just a sideshow and game that distracts from the real issues effecting our chances of continuance. Again this is 20 or years but personally I've seen the past 20 years just evaporate so I know how soon 20 years will be. It doesn't matter.

Do you think people really want an alien power telling them how to live and to give tribute? No they want to support their values, and their system. That is why nations exist.
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Also I would like to point out that Ukrainians absolutely hate it when people say "the" Ukraine. It is simply Ukraine.
I can vouch for this, I have a friend in the Army who is originally from there. Just from talking to her, I quickly learned that you simply say "Ukraine".
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In certain areas of Czechoslovakia, bear in mind it was a creation as a result of the breakup of Austria-Hungary - so not that great of an example it was never really "a country" it was throwing together two ethnic groups into a common union to weaken the previous powers of Austria. Britain at the time and most other places pretty much recognized that it should have been part of Germany, but Germany being an enemy state in WWI was given a rump of lands, bear in mind Germany was once much larger.. Germany itself being a composition of various Holy Roman Empire states, also an artificial creation of the 18th century. I know you like to look at it from what it is today, but Germany was a creation of the Napoleonic wars, and the rise of nationalism. (the German people however were very widespread as recognized by the romans as "Germania - the germans ostrogoths and Visigoths actually took over most of Europe and helped found many other European states) The idea of "cultural nations" was a creature of the 17th century. So yes, most certainly German speaking areas of Czechoslovakia, should have been part of a german nation, if the notion was to keep people of common cultures together. You know most of the issues of the 20th century were due to minority groups being persecuted, so obviously it didn't make sense to have a regions where the major groups were a minority.
Living in multiethnic communities now we like to look back and see segregation as a bad thing but it actually removes a lot of the conflict that can exist in an area.
The old world is still like that except where the british came in and used the divide and conquer system to draw national boundaries where ethnic groups could be aligned against one another to insure that they infought instead of fought the colonial power.






Totally like that although the problem there is that there are Muslims all over India. There are Christians in India, there are muslims there are hindu and others. The big issue with Kashmir and Jammu is that India is religiously persecuting those people. Kashmir should just be given a referendum. Honestly if the goal was peace then yah probably it would be Pakistani.






Well there are lots of cultures in Mexico, not simply "Mexican" there are a variety of ethnic groups in Mexico. Mexico is a "federal creation" much like germany, you know more or less you have ethnic groups, the dominant Mayan groups and European Mexicans.

America is special because it isn't really any specific culture but a hodgepodge. It was a wide mix of fringe religions, and castouts from Europe mostly, so its WASPy identity is watered down you know lots of German Americans that have no german identity, or British Americans that have no British identity. It is also pretty young a creature of the 18th century, its a colony, you know the land is first nations, so there is no real identity it has been changing ongoing. However there are lots of potentials for internal cultural contrasts especially with new immigrants who keep their cultural communities rather than melt in or assimilate. I think with the US you will see more cultural conflict as immigration continues to change the demographics even more.

None the less, if those land areas of states became "Mexican" culturally then it would make sense to make them part of Mexico, not unlike most of the US becoming American when local natives were conquered and colonists moved in to set up those states. The states themselves wouldn't be Mexican but much like the Americans conquered the land from the native tribes and Mexicans, the land would basically be conquered by "new age colonization".

The same thing is happening in Canada, with much of the "Canadian culture" being coopted by American culture. If that were to continue the difference of Canadian identity would be gone, and cultural national union would be possible --- leaving only political differences to be determined. IMO national boundaries are a matter of culture more so than politics, where as the internal power structures within national boundaries are political conflicts that are social and economic divisions.

So true new cultures can form as a result of social and economic differences, however these differences need to be widespread in specific areas such that the groups were segretated communities and were not codependent, nor have shared values, and lifeways. The communities essentially have to be linked to the other parts of the would be nation, and they would not be linked to the other "cultural/political" group for continuance of their ways of living.


Again I can understand your position from now looking at the past but it is ignorant of how these things actually came to exist and why they exist as they do. Now it is more about a narrative that supports it the way you want it to be to maintain power, not a realization of what allowed you to gain that power.


I can tell you really don't know how the world is comprised. Most of the "nations" the Russians, the Chinese, Indians, etc.. are tons of smaller cultural groups. They are/were Empires... we are seeing these proxy wars being used to create "mono cultural" groups, that will more easily be pieced into rival Empires. Its the same sort of idea we just use different language now.

Superstates, superpowers etc.. instead of Empire.

We are playing a time game now, so short of actual war I don't think it will matter much. Its just a sideshow and game that distracts from the real issues effecting our chances of continuance. Again this is 20 or years but personally I've seen the past 20 years just evaporate so I know how soon 20 years will be. It doesn't matter.

Do you think people really want an alien power telling them how to live and to give tribute? No they want to support their values, and their system. That is why nations exist.
Not disputing your post as I have not read it in it's entirety but I just wanted to let you know that it is now just called Czec Republic, it is no longer Czechoslovakia.
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They are far more expensive too.
During WW2 the Philippine guerillas filed bullets from brass curtain rods. They also dismantled Japanese marine mines for powder.
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Kashmir was entirely Hindu until the muslim invasions of the 14th century. It and eventually most of South Asia was ruled more or less brutally by the so-called Moghal Empire, which was actually a kind of feudal warlord system, until the British horned in. Hindus remember. That they abhor muslims to this day is entirely understandable.
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The Cold War is welfare for the military industrial complex on all sides. New weapon's systems drive new defensive systems, it's a never ending story of spend more money.

Everyone cheats - only the looser gets caught and vilified. The lame stream media only reports what the NWO/Swamp wants 'people' to believe.

What, there are about 100,000 or so nuke weapons world wide. When was the last one actually used in combat? 1945 BOCKSCAR. What a giant waste of money and materials let alone the damage to the environment to mine and test weapons to scary to continue to use.

Did we learn anything for 3 Mile Island, Chernobyl, Fukushima - maybe.

How many millions of people have we killed to hold back Communism and now they are running for President. How many millions were killed by the Communist to enforce Communism? How many successful Communist states are there?

So, why do we prep? To protect what we have. The US has to do the same,
well once it did. Obama work to take us down. For many years and still to this day our schools have been teaching our kids that Communism is good. So that is why we see some running to install it here.
What happened to Fukushima was a shame, they built a huge jetty to keep out the sea at 35 feet. No one seen a 90 foot wave.
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So, why do we prep? To protect what we have. The US has to do the same,
well once it did. Obama work to take us down. For many years and still to this day our schools have been teaching our kids that Communism is good. So that is why we see some running to install it here.
What happened to Fukushima was a shame, they built a huge jetty to keep out the sea at 35 feet. No one seen a 90 foot wave.
The problems began long before Obama. That is, with the formation of a military-industrial complex and Bretton Woods.
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William, Germany was unified in the 19th century, not the 18th.
Did I say the german empire was founded in the 19th century.

The idea of a German state came about as a result of the Napoleonic War in the 18th century. When German lands became occupied by the French, and annexations by the Russian Empire were happening.

The reformation was a major transition phase
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussia


Again you are saying "but modern germany" is what the german state was.. no sorry try again.


Big changes happened as a result of the Napoleonic war. The loss of the Holy Roman Empire paved the way to a major overhaul of Germanic peoples. The union of Brandenburg and the Duchy of Prussia in 1618 led to the proclamation of the Kingdom of Prussia in 1701.

I'm sure you are saying, but Prussia is Poland.
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A new Cold War? I doubt it.

The former "Soviet Bloc" no longer exists. It's satellites are on their own now, and the Warsaw pact is no more. The countries of Eastern Europe have absolutely no desire to go back to Russia. The Communist ideology is nothing but a relic now.

And despite Putin's bombast, Russia itself has serious problems. There is rampant corruption. It's economy has taken a huge hit with the fall in oil prices. There are serious health and demographic problems with its people. And it is facing its own threat internally from the rise of fundamentalism among its large population of Muslims. Who are increasing faster than the traditional native Russians.

Without oil, its economy has little to fall back on. It's industrial infrastructure has taken a huge hit from Western sanctions.

Also--the Russian people themselves have no desire to go back to Stalinist austerity and saber rattling. They have had a taste of Western materialism. With the rise of the Internet, it is no longer possible to keep the people from seeing how the rest of the world lives. There's plenty of internal opposition to Putin. Among the ordinary people, but also among the oligarchs. Who are too busy investing in British football clubs and buying mansions along the French Riviera, to want a new Cold War with the rest of the world.

I could go on. But I doubt very much a new cold war.

I keep thinking of that saying "History repeats itself. First as tragedy, then as farce".
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President Trump recently pulled the United States out of a nuclear arms limitation treaty with Russia. Putin had been accused of violating the treaty, so why would the United States stay in the treaty?

All of that is besides the point. What bothers me is we may be facing a new arms race and another Cold War. Then again, was the first Cold War really over?

I know what the history books say, and that is the Cold War was over in the 1990s.

Are We Entering a New Cold War? - YouTube


If we are heading towards another Cold War there are a couple of things I suggest we look for:

Doe Run lead smelting plant, or any lead smelting plant. Thanks to the Obama administration we as a nation can no longer take lead ore and smelt it to a usable product. We can take lead and recycle it, but we do not have the ability to take raw lead ore and turn that ore into a usable product.

If the nation needs to gear up for another Cold War, then we need the ability to produce our of lead. This means we should keep an ear to the ground for a lead refinery to open.

Next thing we may want to look for is the military making new orders of small arms ammunition. This means 9mm, 45acp, 223, 7.62 nato... etc. When the government places an order, their order will push civilian production out of the way. The end result is ammo shortages, primer shortages, powder shortages, and price hikes.

I remember back in the 1990s there were long term primer and powder shortages.

My son and I planted:
  • 14 rows of corn
  • 4 rows of potatoes
  • 2 rows of onions

Towards the end of March I will be planting beans, peas, peppers, squash...etc.

To prep for the next Cold War, I am planting a large garden and plan on putting more food up.

Then there are the 14 hens I have in the small chicken house.

Thoughts, suggestions?

My family did all that in the early 80's. Planted a large garden, an orchard, stockpiled lots of bulk dry food, we dried vegetables and fruit, canned a thousand jars of produce each year, smoked salmon, canned ling cod, smoked wild turkeys, buried carrots in a barrel underground, raised goats, shot deer, made jerky, canned crab, clams, smoked herring, raised goats, geese, ducks.

Daughter and I raised lots of super-sweet corn, and made raspberry and blackberry-apple cider and sold goodies at our fruit stand.

I melted lead for bullets for a Thompson look-alike, SKS, handguns and old black-powder handguns.

Having moved from a larger area to an area with little chance for nukes and fallout, we were ready, but the collapse never came. We had lots of books on nuclear survival and old issue of Guns and Ammo where Mel Tappan told us of what was coming, but nothing came. Eventually we arrived at our mid-70's and living that life is rough now and not so fun as when we were in our 30's and 40's.

So my advice to you is to not put your eggs in one basket, though you may think you know what will happen soon. Prepare for retirement in the usual way while you are working for current survival. I wish I did.
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The Road to World War III

I have a few questions?

Can anyone tell me who has been instigating, pushing and promoting a violent revolution in America for years?

Who plans to benefit from a violent revolution?

Who promulgated violent revolutions in the 20th century and took over countries?

What was the outcome of those revolutions?

How did the citizens come out?

This video is a well put together propaganda film with some truth, sly innuendo, slanted views and outright lies.

I know some of this is absolute BS of my own knowledge and experience. I was there, I lived it. That makes me doubt the whole thing besides recognizing an attempt to stir up people who have the means to start a violent revolution. For the most part those people are not who would start it, but they would stand up if the left started it.

Don't fall for this stuff. It is right out of the communist playbook of disinformation. They are coming out in the open. They think they have the upper hand and it is their time.... Their goal is to destroy America.

I don't know who "ralfy" is but posting this makes me wonder.

Be Prepared !
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