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Kind of tempted by this G26 kit $449.99 plus shipping.

https://80pbuilder.com/dipolmat-in-m...dark-earth-fde



Probably going to buy a G19 Polymer 80 frame and put my Advantage Arms 22lr conversion slide on it.

Anyone here built one of these kits? Want to show it off?
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Kind of tempted by this G26 kit $449.99 plus shipping.

https://80pbuilder.com/dipolmat-in-m...dark-earth-fde



Probably going to buy a G19 Polymer 80 frame and put my Advantage Arms 22lr conversion slide on it.

Anyone here built one of these kits? Want to show it off?

I did one for a 19/23 frame. I've got a 23 already so I figured I'd start there. I have the lower finished & I put my upper on & it fits fine, ejects shells, etc. I haven't taken it out to test fire yet. I have a barrel for it, I still need to get the slide & UPK to have it finished as complete pistol. I would say for starters the jig is only good for drilling the holes, just shave off the excess rail at the top then polish. I'm going to do either a G22 or G27 next & that's how I plan on building it. It's looking as though, just like with the first time I built an AR & an 80% AR, I learned a lot that made the next one a bit easier.
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I was pricing a complete G19 pistol out on Brownelle's last night. I'm at $535 if I get everything I want (RMR cut slide and suppressor height night sights) minus the red dot and barrel I already have.

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This $439 complete kit (with everything) on Gunbroker may be a better deal
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/792134813

The frame kits are cheaper on gunbroker - $99 each.
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Will stock Glock parts still work with these lowers?
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Why would you do this when you can private sale (and no credit card and shipping record) a real glock for less?

Heck, frames are $100-$150 if you just want that. Sometimes less.
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Why would you do this when you can private sale (and no credit card and shipping record) a real glock for less?

Heck, frames are $100-$150 if you just want that. Sometimes less.
Kind of like Romanian AK kits back in the day. You could buy a Wasr10 for the same price as putting one together.

I think I'll just do the frame / lower parts set for now.
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Will stock Glock parts still work with these lowers?
They will. Seeing prices around $45 to $50 the lower parts kits. There's a thread w/ 20 some pages over on AR15.com on these. Seems you want standard length mag release over the extended length.
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Kind of like Romanian AK kits back in the day. You could buy a Wasr10 for the same price as putting one together.

I think I'll just do the frame / lower parts set for now.
No.

I built dozens of them CHEAPER than a WASR.
(I bought 90 G kits alone from $90-$140 per)
Otherwise I wouldn't of.
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I built dozens of them CHEAPER than a WASR.
(I bought 90 G kits alone from $90-$140 per)
Otherwise I wouldn't of.
I built 3 at the same prices. Tooling, FFL receivers, and US parts brought the cost of the 1st one up to near that of a $300 wasr 10.
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I built 3 at the same prices. Tooling, FFL receivers, and US parts brought the cost of the 1st one up to near that of a $300 wasr 10.
I built one pistol on a flat for $111. (Flat + rivets, no compliance parts needed.) My cheapest build

After 17 flats I switched to NDS.

As best I recall got:
US pistol grips for $6-8
Birdcage flash hiders (best performing <$80) for $8-12 depending on timing and quantity
G2 TRIGGERS (3 compliance parts) for $12-22 (again, timing and volume)
And regular NDS'S for $55 (volume discount)
Rivets in volume <$1.
Flats were $11, but included rivets.
Never bought a (dedicated) tool, you can make most of them from scrap metal, and I knew people with the tools.
Came out to somewhere between $190 (after paint, parkerizing, or later when I got duracoat for free and sometimes had paint over park done) to $250 for the NDS 's, flats were as low as <$150. (couple of the $10 for paint or grey park solution (me and a buddy bought out a guy getting out of it.) And dremil grinding wheels to demil with, + the occasional punch. Took 3-6 pennies to knock out. A barrel without damaging it, but I'd pick up the smooched pennies and spend them. Got some odd looks, but everyone took them.

Granted that's with $0 value of my time, but I did most of my AK building waiting between getting out and going back to college for the corps to straighten out my paperwork. (A summer off turned into going back to school in Jan.)
WASR'S were $330-$360 + FFL and shipping. (I bought a PILE just before Obama won. They were $750+$1k guns at the next gunshow.)
Took 8 hours to build one from a flat, 4 on a NDS.

But the REAL savings is in the 'oddball' stuff.
I have 14 or more triangular folders and 'AK 100' stocked guns I have between $450 and $550 per in, krinks, RPK'S AMD-65'S (THOSE original barreled kits were $65 at one point), Bulgarian 74's, my RPK74, etc.
All priced not far off what a WASR was going for...
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I think my basic G2 builds were similar priced as yours. Maybe add a can of Aluma Hyde II - $20. In the $200 range.

Some of the premium kits receiver bumped the price up.

I had the following tooling, that brought #1 up in cost.

Bolt cutter rivet tool $60
HF drill press - $35
HF Vice - $35
Drill bits - $10



I have a 1911 kit that I'm taking a 10 year break from working on. Sure I could just buy another 1911, but what fun is that.

Conversion cylinders for BP revolvers make little sense either, financially. Most run $200 to $300 for just the cylinder in addition to the $200 Black Powder revolver. One could buy a Uberti or Ruger Blackhawk for far less than that combo.

I think one could put one of these P80 guns together pretty cheaply, if they are not in a rush, and don't want certain features. Whereas the one I priced out on Brownelle's has a bunch of things I'd want - expensive RMR cut slide, night sights, etc.

Hit some sales or dig around a gunshow and things will come down in price.
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Why would you do this when you can private sale (and no credit card and shipping record) a real glock for less?

Heck, frames are $100-$150 if you just want that. Sometimes less.
Not all places allow the transfer of a handgun without a FFL transfer.
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His does.

I get 'because I want to' that's a perfect justification IMHO.

But for me at least it's typically about "cool stuff'
Gloves are hammers.
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His does.

I get 'because I want to' that's a perfect justification IMHO.

But for me at least it's typically about "cool stuff'
Gloves are hammers.
Well I am sitting in Africa. The 2 FFL's I used closed up shop.
I have 1 more in town but don't care for him.

I could be sitting here sending kits directly to the house.

Or maybe I just want one?
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I know, and that's why I'm talking about the trump economy pricing.

I'm buying no lock S&W's at crazy stupid prices all over the place, and while you can find plenty for sale, the only glocks I see selling above the 3's is the 43.


If you just wanta... Your call.
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Another pro for these is they annoy liberals:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/law-enf...iy-ghost-guns/

https://wjla.com/features/7-on-your-side/ghost-guns
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I haven't done it yet but it's on the list.


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Why would you do this when you can private sale (and no credit card and shipping record) a real glock for less?

Heck, frames are $100-$150 if you just want that. Sometimes less.
Same reason that I build anything. Because I never have all the money at once, and I can spend a little at a time on parts as money comes in and eventually it will be done. Plus I will have built it, which is a satisfaction thing. Even if it IS plug and play, like an AR.

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i spoke with the people who made the frames, seems theyve made a lot of improvement with their new ones, and the featureless frame looks like a great canvas for a custom stippling job.. i was strongly considering building one but since decided against it for no particular reason outside of just not being a big fan of plastic guns in general
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Same reason that I build anything. Because I never have all the money at once, and I can spend a little at a time on parts as money comes in and eventually it will be done. Plus I will have built it, which is a satisfaction thing. Even if it IS plug and play, like an AR.

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My first build at least, I should actually be less into it than I would be for a new one. I got the 50% discount at 5D tactical for doing the reviews on their jig. You could get a max $125 off your order. So that meant the 80% frame/jig&tools were only $75 & the LPK was only $50. They didn't have anything on the upper 1/2 for a 40cal build so I got the AR/10 coversion kit & got a few bucks taken off that as well & that all put me into free shipping territory too. I got a barrel (2 actually) from Bear Creek Arsenal when they were on sale for $35ea. So now I'm just the slide & UPK (or slide kit I guess) from having a complete gun. I've found a new stainless steel slide cerakoted ones for $180 & a slide parts kit for $80, but that one doesn't come with the guide rod assembly, I've found the factory ones for $5. Now, I think that should put me at $425. Now of course people will come in & tell me they get them all day new for under $300 at their local gun store, or a "good" used one for half that & to them I say, good for you!

It's also though like you said, some months a person has a bit more play money than others, so I often wait for deals to pop up the best I can & then its nice to be able to 1. purchase guns on an installment without paying any finance fees, 2. being able to build the gun YOU want to build, not what someone at a factory slapped on it that you're going to take off anyway. 3. It's nice to not only avoid the ATF transfer fee, but also the hassle of having to go through an FFL, finally, the fact that big brother is out of the equation is nice too, but as I'm not a criminal, that's more of just feeling free than anything.

I will say if you haven't done one yet, you will see that apart from needing a good guide for drilling the holes, you won't even need a jig. Someone could probably make some money making a reusable jig that lined up the holes over & over. I've found frames & jigs for the single stack Glocks sold separately, but none for the double stacks. If I could get just a frame for $75 without buying a jig & drill bits every time, that would help keep costs down too.

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I built the g19 version using all glock parts. Using sales & discounts as much as possible, I spent slightly more than the last factory 4th gen I purchased through a FFL.

For me, cost was only one factor. Privacy is another. Although private sales are legal in my home state, finding a good used shooter is kind of a crap shoot. With the P80, you build exactly what you want from the beginning and you get a gun with a known history.

When starting the build, I had no doubts it would shoot. When finished, I was highly surprised by the quality of the product.

I highly recommend it.
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