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If you had a choice, which would you rather have, some sort of houseboat on a river, or a trailer out in the woods (on a backroad) a several miles from town, possible with a creek nearby?
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Rivers freeze here, so do lakes.
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If you had a choice, which would you rather have, some sort of houseboat on a river, or a trailer out in the woods (on a backroad) a several miles from town, possible with a creek nearby?
I would take the boat.
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Shipping container home on stilts , with houseboat next to river would be my preference.
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boats sink, and house boats don't move fast enough to get away from danger.

I like sailing and can live on my boat a month at a time very easily. I still would not suggest boat living unless you are using it to move to another place.
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Some sort of warning system, and your crowning jewel!
50 Cal Barret with some primo optics.

I would imagine if on an inland lake water and food would be fairly easy (Don't forget to eat the fish guts)

But the "marauders" will eventually start "feeding" off the spoils of the lake (You!)
That's where the 50 cal Barret comes in. (Poor mans recoiless rifle)

The scenario is just such a mess (All scenarios) It's just sad.
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If you had a choice, which would you rather have, some sort of houseboat on a river, or a trailer out in the woods (on a backroad) a several miles from town, possible with a creek nearby?
I would say trailer in the woods, if you're on a houseboat in the middle of a river or a lake you're going to be easy pickings for anybody on the shoreline. Most people will be flocking to lakes and rivers for water and food. If you are Deep In the Backwoods, chances are no one will ever find you, but any yayhoo who with a rifle is going to take potshots at you from the bank and there's not much you're going to be able to do about it. You're just a Sitting Duck
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I'd vote for an RV or camper too. My reasoning is the a boat doesn't provide any cover for escape if you've been found and there's no concealing the house boat unless you find an inlet on an island.

An RV/camper can be moved, providing you have fuel/tow vehicle, and could be painted to camouflage and blend into your surroundings.

Neither one will provide much cover if assaulted but the RV/camper can provide concealment. Easiest way to hide a camper is to park at a RV park or retailer lot, depending on the conditions of SHTF event.

Just my $.02 worth...
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Those are some good points. A trailer in the woods and an evacuation vehicle (small Rv/ Van set up for camping) sounds nice.
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depends on your location........but those who think a cabin deep in the woods....wherever that is.....are fooling themselves thinking it will not be found...by marauders...if you can get to it so can they
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depends on your location........but those who think a cabin deep in the woods....wherever that is.....are fooling themselves thinking it will not be found...by marauders...if you can get to it so can they
Murphy's Law of Survival: No matter how remote you are, how well hidden you are, someone is going to find you at the worst possible time for you.
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And also consider, last time I checked, a camper does not sink if there's a big hole in the side. You can throw a blanket over it to keep mosquitoes out. But a boat, if damaged....might make you desperate to paddle to shore, lest all of your preps end up at the bottom of lake/river.
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just watched Cargo (an Aussie zombie flick) made a houseboat look idealic, till it wasn't.
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A houseboat in the bayou.
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I'm not sayin' nobody would find a RV/camper. However, unlike a cabin, you can always move the RV/camper as needed. AND, as stated by vivisky, a RV/camper won't sink when you have a few holes poked into it by bullets and such. You can still take your "stuff" with you when you move it...however, swamppapa points out a slightly improved scenario if located in the bayou; that'd work cause of lots of natural camouflage.
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When I think about bug out or bug in locations, I think about filters.

In this case, its people you are trying to keep out. Nothing will keep out 100% of them but certain things act like filters to reduce the number you have to deal with. Reduce the population at your location and you reduce competition, reduce competition enough and what would be a threat in large numbers can become an ally.


So lets get to the question. Woods are a filter. Many people are not familiar with them, many people don't know how to navigate in them or have vehicles capable of traveling in them.

But....

Far less people are familiar with the water. Few people are willing to swim more than a few yards, few people have boats and know how to use them. Among those with boats, very few actually have them with them at any given time.

Being able to travel on the water is a powerful filter. Cross a river in a canoe and right there you've left behind 90% of potential threats.

Sure, other people have boats, other people have guns...but you've greatly decreased your exposure to competition by just getting a little ways out in the water.

Any place you can get your RV, someone else could drive up to. Which also goes for your boat but think of how few people have boats compared to trucks.

Now, as always, there are circumstances that change things. You have to take population density into account. If a boat eliminates 90% of people, your still in worse trouble if that boat is in a region with a 1000% more people.

Regardless, always think in terms of filters. Taking an RV up a road? If its a 4x4 only road thats a filter....if you drop a few trees behind you thats another one. (you've reduced your threat set from anyone with a car to anyone with a 4x4 truck AND a chainsaw)

As for bullet holes sinking boats.....not a worry unless your getting hit by heavy machine gun fire. Even with multiple holes your talking hours to sink any large boat with such small holes. Carry a roll of waterproof duct tape, its not a concern.

As a final note, keep in mind the vast difference in weight capacity between an RV and a boat of similar size. A boat can easily carry ten times more weight. Food, water, tools, etc...there is almost no comparison between what a boat can haul and what a land vehicle can. Even just a 16' canoe moved with paddle power can move a thousand pounds of gear.
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When I think of rivers/lakes and boats for a bug-out home, i think of Jack Hinson.

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A trawler on salt water could work. But you take a path straight out to sea till you get over the horizon, then head for an unaffected country that is somewhat hospitable.

Houseboat - no way . Not seaworthy, hence must remain in sheltered waters, which means you are in easy rifle range with no armor. And you stand out like a sore thumb.

Trailer (or just about anything) is better than a houseboat. You can dig a fighting position near it if needed.
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I like boats, but the typical house boat is big, slow, and easy to spot. A smaller fishing/hunting boat with netting and brush makes a lot more sense. Easy to push or tow a barge or Jon boat packed with supplies.

Camp trailers come in a wide variety of sizes and abilities. I've owned several. I would not try and hide a large class A, or 5th wheel in a SHTF environment. But I can see how a short bumper pull trailer could be painted and covered in camo. Phil on Duck Dynasty turned one into a hunting blind.

In either case, the better solution would be to build a series of storage Caches to protect your supplies. If you got there, some one else can too.
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