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Old 08-06-2018, 06:11 PM
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Tensions seem to be mounting. If the right takes the mid-term elections, there will be violence. If the left takes the mid-term elections they will try very hard to oust Trump and that could trigger violence.

I'm a pretty peaceful guy but I have to say this. I have been pushed way to hard far too many times by far left wingers who are nothing less than completely unhinged. Pretty sure those feeling are quite widespread.

Almost 60 and never seen anything remotely like this in America.

I would not take the far left too lightly. They have a lot of matches and balaclavas. Plus dildo's are possibly flammable. Fat certainly is.
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Yes.

But its not just left vs right.

The next war is going to be complex, multisided thing.

Rich vs poor, white vs black, city vs country, dry vs wet. Everyone has an axe to grind and is just waiting for the chance to use it.
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Oh yea. Neither side are willing to budge or come to equal ended compromises. And itll be more than just left vs right.

Its gonna be rich vs poor, black vs white, right vs left, up vs down, and most importantly, "us" vs "them"
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Yes.

But its not just left vs right.

The next war is going to be complex, multisided thing.

Rich vs poor, white vs black, city vs country, dry vs wet. Everyone has an axe to grind and is just waiting for the chance to use it.
Agreed 10000000%. Didnt see your reply till mine posted. Great minds think alike
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From what I have seen of the protest and violence through several you tube videos. The proud boys and pro American side of the events are populated with Latinos, Blacks, and Whites shouting out their love and pride for America. It truly is an integrated crowd of people and it gives me hope that people of minority backgrounds are waking up and are showing their pride in being an American. I would be happy to fight along side a person of any race as long as they are an American patriot. It is not about race or ethnicity, but about philosophical belief systems on how we should conduct our civil affairs and live our lives. It is about maintaining our freedoms that the left would take away for the "common good" and the "security of the state". That is the mantra of the Soviets back in the 70's. There is a movement afoot known as the "the walkaway movement" that seems to be gaining some momentum. That is people walking away from the democratic party and their shallow hallow race bating rhetoric. If enough people walk away and the democrats suffer a setback in the upcoming fall elections, then the steam may be taken out of the leftist, and any threats of a civil war will diminish. Be sure to get to the voting booth and let your voices be heard loud and clear. The Patriot movement embraces all pro American Patriots. As one Patriot of Mexican decent put it. He is not a Mexican but an American of Mexican decent. Now that is a message I can relate too.
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Probably not like we read in the history books.
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No. Not even close. There will be a continuation of this 'cold war.' The Democrats are trying to find out who they want to be. My belief is that the Democrats will move closer to the center after the mid-term elections. All American eye's are on the Socialist-Democratic Party. If they grow and turn into little nazi's and bold fascists, 20 or 21 minutes after the true Demonazi's start outlawing the Bill of Rights, you'll get your shooting war.
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The Far Left & Left think Leo’s & the Military NG will side with them ( the moment the shooting starts even the Portland mayor and police commissioner will turn on them
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Eventually a limited civil war may take place. I think that there may some areas, rural areas for example, where nothing happens at all. I look for conflicts to happen in larger urban areas and especially along both coastlines, around the Great Lake shores and along the larger rivers like the Ohio and Mississippi to some degree. More than anything, I think you will see Democrat controlled areas implode.

Imagine if the federal government suddenly stopped the public aid program. Where would all the civil unrest begin? Answer: in the larger urban areas where the ghettos exist. Sooner or later something like that may trigger the violent urban leeches, not the legitimate users of public aid, to start attacking people if they could find victims. To find unarmed victims the gangstas and their soldiers will have to head out of their urban shelters towards the suburbs which will cause an armed or violent reaction. That's when the shooting wars start.

Forces that are armed will begin to sweep in from all sorts of directions with police being overwhelmed by the shear number of violent acts one fight brings to it. Chicago thinks that 50 people shot with a dozen dead is bad, wait a couple of more years when they have 1,200 shot and 250 dead in one gunfight.
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I feel we are in a soft civil war now.
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Not only is it inevitable, it's decades overdue.
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Is it bad I'm almost excited for one to happen? I mean... if it's the antigun left vs the progun right, itll be like shooting ducks in a barrel

For self defense purposes only. But, life is just too bland. Needs more spice
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Not only is it inevitable, it's decades overdue.
I was going to say 'it's on-going...'
At least on one side.
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No. Not even close. There will be a continuation of this 'cold war.' The Democrats are trying to find out who they want to be. My belief is that the Democrats will move closer to the center after the mid-term elections. All American eye's are on the Socialist-Democratic Party. If they grow and turn into little nazi's and bold fascists, 20 or 21 minutes after the true Demonazi's start outlawing the Bill of Rights, you'll get your shooting war.
If the Democrats wish to remain relevant, they SHOULD move to the center. That's the politically smart thing to do, IMO.

However, I can't think of a single Democrat who's moderate and has the ability to rally people behind him/her. It truly is a leaderless movement. The new "face" of the democrats--Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez--is only going to send them leftward, if that's possible.

Meanwhile, media outlets like the NY Times hire and endorse openly-bigoted editors like Sarah Jeong.

That's the Democrats--making friends fast.
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Is it bad I'm almost excited for one to happen? I mean... if it's the antigun left vs the progun right, itll be like shooting ducks in a barrel
#me too.

But I don't think it will be that easy...I expect "our" side to take casualties at a 20-1 ratio. They will be the ones with the drones and the bigdogs and who knows what else. We will die by the millions. Our homes burned, women raped, crops poisoned, all the usual horrors of war.

But still, insurgencies are practically unbeatable no matter the technological advantage.
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I think we need a trigger event to get things rolling. Think Rodney King or Ferguson riots on a regional or coastal level....

What that event could be.....I just don't know. I think there is something in the news every day that COULD be used. I just keep watching the merry-go-round spin. Could it be engineered, absolutely.
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I do not care either way , the libtards will reap the whirlwind once it starts. JMHO
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It is increasingly harder to remain optimistic about the future while observing the trajectory of contemporary political and cultural discourse.

Not only are the divisions growing, but we've left behind the Enlightenment ideal of rational deliberation between opposing sides about matters of importance.

The left-leaning postmodernists want to force the worse propaganda imaginable upon the youngest of school kids, will force legal sanctions upon the mildest sign of disagreement with whatever is political correct at the moment (refusing to bake a cake is now equated with fascism), and political activism has gone far beyond peaceful protest and lobbying to confronting people wherever they might be found, even if it's a family meal in a restaurant. Once you add to that the attempts to essentially bar people's access to many forms of electronic communications or the most basic forms of banking and fundraising if they or their cause is deemed unacceptable, it's hard to belief that this climate will improve at any point in the near future. Under such circumstances, it's hard to argue with those who'd like it to boil over and come to a head before these trends continue on for too long. The self-censorship required to survive such a situation can be even greater than what people had to go through behind the Iron Curtain, and there's a point beyond which that becomes unbearable for anyone with at least a figment of self-respect.

And while I'm mostly critical of the left, I'm not optimistic that the right will win the cultural battle by keeping to the high ground, and that many will feel compelled to act just as Machiavellian towards their opponents as the left has behaved.

God only knows how things will turn out once violence becomes more common and normalized.
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I used to be seriously concerned about just this topic, then the other day read that ANTIFA “attacked” a marine recruiting office. When it was closed...
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No I don't think it is inevitable. I think the media proclaims and propagandizes these protests and events and thoughts like they are the main stream, and they are not, in my opinion. The far left remains a small isolated population. Do not take the fact they have won some primaries as evidence the society is shifting left. (it is, but not in the way depicted), their win of primaries is democrats and other lefties showing that they are fed up with their politicians, not wholesale adopting their beliefs. Much like Trump and Tea Party victories were more so an indictment of the current system and politicians as opposed to an adoption of their platforms.

Can a minority on both sides start a civil war? Yes, indeed, it has happened before. But I think they trouble we are seeing around the edges of the political spectrum have much longer to percolate before it starts a shooting war. Will their be protests and violent mob action? certainly, that will come. But honestly, it has been quieter these last 6 months than the previous.

Could there be an event or series of evens that spin out of control? absolutely. but civil war isn't inevitable and I don't believe it is impending.
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