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Old 05-16-2007, 02:13 AM
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I'm slowly trying to stock up on survival supplies (camping gear, food/seeds, water purifiers etc.) as we most definitely live in uncertain times to say the least. I think I have enough to set up a solid camp.
Part of this includes firearms. Currently I have a Mini 14, Glock 23 and Remington 870. Is this adequate? I'm considering either a .30-06 or .308 bolt action. What do you think?
Also, what kind of cutting tools (axes, saws, knives) do you recommend?
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Jesse,
All the tools are usefull. That means all you have or you can have.
But most important are the skills. If you have proper skills, you can made any tool.
Any people on this forum can tell you what kind of tools they will like to have. But this tools are related with owner skills. If somebody have blacksmith skills, he will like to have hammers and anvils. If know carpentey, he will like to have axes, saws, and other like this.
So, in the first time, take the tools you know to use. After that, take any tools (there are good for barter and maybe you increase your skills).

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The choice of firearms (type and quantiity) depends on the scenarios you are preparing for (this of course is true for all supplies, not just firearms). One can envision far too many ways in which an event will require us rely on the preparations we have made. If you are preparing to survive a tornado then a well stocked arsenal may not be the most important focus. Whereas if you are preparing for an invasion that arsenal may be a key consideration.

You will find varied opinions here. For me firearms are primarily for hunting with defense as a secondary purpose. Thusly my firearms are less numerous and of different types than someone with defense as a primary concern.

So, what I'm saying is that the answer to your question is dependent on the context of the scenarios you are preparing for. Lacking this, people may answer within the context of their own scenarios of concern.

How's that for a long-winded non-answer?

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IMO,
I think PER didn't say it best, or is that said it not best, or is that.....:D

Really he said it quite well, my only suggestion is a larger caliber long gun for hunting ( two or four leggs) depending on your goals / money / ergonomics.

As far as tools go.....
an axe will do the same thing as a chain saw, only slower
a hand saw will do the same as a circular saw, only slower
you get the drift. What I found the hard way during recent bad weather was that a good chain saw is priceless.
The tools are a personal choice, like firearms, what fits best and what are you envisioning it to do. Find tools that can do a multiple of tasks. example: splitting maul, one side is an axe the other can be a sledge hammer.
hope this didn't help either......:D
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Currently I have a Mini 14, Glock 23 and Remington 870. Is this adequate? I'm considering either a .30-06 or .308 bolt action. What do you think?
Also, what kind of cutting tools (axes, saws, knives) do you recommend?
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I recommend a Ruger 10/22 or a Marlin model 60. Everyone should have at least one rifle chambered in 22 long rifle.

The 30-06 might be a better choice then the 308, just because of where you live.

For wood tools, I suggest at least one wood splitting maul, to go along with a good 8 or 10 pound hammer and wedges.

At least 1 maybe 2 axes with replacement handles.
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Another consideration for tools is whether or not just the business aspect of the tool will suffice. If you need to move out, then just axe heads or saw blades will take up less space and not weigh as much. You would, of course, then need to fashion handles somehow.

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I do not know your location but a 30-06 will handle larger, dangerous game better than a 308 due to the larger case (with heavier bullets). A 22LR is a must have, especialy in rural areas where loud gun shots upset the neighbors. A chainsaw, maul and wedges, plus hand tools is a very good investment.

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Another consideration for tools is whether or not just the business aspect of the tool will suffice. If you need to move out, then just axe heads or saw blades will take up less space and not weigh as much. You would, of course, then need to fashion handles somehow.

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I agree with the compact carry items, as for fasioning handles, some time back, I was involved in MountianMan Competitions.
I used too make my own tomahawk handles, a good bowsaw or even a rope saw, knife, and broken glass will do a fine job.
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Ok I know that you are in Orygun. I am going to make an assumption that you are are on the West Side. The 30-06 is the best choice. A 22LR and a chain saw with hand tools is a must have. I have built elk camps with just a chainsaw and a few timber spikes (big nails). If you are in big timber country and plan to stay there then you will need a big saw and lots of fuel, enough to build a large cabin and cut alot of fire wood, maybe 2 years worth. You will need fuel, chains and files to sharpen the chains. In a western orygun situation a BIG saw is a plus.
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I'd 2nd or 3rd the bit about adding a .22 rifle and a Good .30 cal bolt rifle.
I prefer my rifles to have iron sights, as well as a scope.
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I'll agree with the iron sites as well, damage your optic and not have open sites, you will only have an exspensive stick.
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I would go with a 30-06 mainly because that is what I want. For a cutting tool I like the Gransfors Bruks line of axes they are hand forged in Sweden and they are very well balanced, they are exepensive but quality usually is.
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