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Just more EVIL Satanist LIberals and Muslims.

But, freedom of speech exist here in the US of A.

In your country ????
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Hong Kong is still attracting quite a bit of attention.

I was suprised to see the level of organization the protests are gaining




Serious impacts for China to bringin the PLA if not it seems HongKong will be fairly unstable ongoingnow. Pretty big city to fall off the map.
The report is not giving all the info.. not just bricks and slingshots but also molotovs.
This was one of the cities that marked an important point in WWII.

It is actually very heroic to see these people stand up to the worlds largest militarized state. Irregardless of the politics these protestors in Hong Kong are fire walkers. I think if there is any powderkeg in the world today the most volatile is probably in Hong Kong, even bearing Kashmir.


Their chant today is "FREE HONG KONG" This movement is effectively transforming into a color revolution ... IN CHINA.. that is profound. I dread to think what would happen if the PLA were involved in a protest of over 1 million people how that would look. I could only expect the Chinese government to adopt covert seige warfare tactics. If it is nobility that is great but hopefully there is no underlaying nefarious play to use these people for a failed color revolution to do damage to china rather than help Hong Kong.

This is a major shift potential here in asia, this is not a benign sitaution and if you havn't been watching it, it is something that probably should be looked at.





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It hurts a bit when you MUST role your own Show now that Trump has pulled the free plug on all of them now. Instead of making our business work for pennies on the dollar. Grin and bear it China. Same old stuff China has subjected our business and working class to over the last few years.

Cheers President TRUMP!!!!
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This is a show of what the weapons of world war three might look like on detonation... nuclear fueled cruise missiles with unlimited range and intelligent guidance systems to avoid missile defence. and they end with this... when they hit their target... as part of the fuel/engine detonation.

had to share as this is the new generation of weapons, stealth and highly destructive.. attacks that can't be stopped and whose effects are impressive.



With the US / Russian pullout of nuclear reduction/limitation treaties a whole new world of a new arms race is emerging, one where old systems are able to be paired with new technologies for even more effectiveness.. unstoppable until counter measures are developed.








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Situaiton in Hongkong slowly ramping
PLA massed on the border of Hong Kong

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How many of Russia's own were lost in this exercise?
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How many of Russia's own were lost in this exercise?
I think official reports werer 6 or 8 or something from the direct blast -- scientists and military.... but again these official reports are not really verifiable.

Radiation from blasts is not uncommon, even US missile tests sites in Italy leave radioactive wastes behind that poison the local population for decades.

Radiaotive materials are not uncommon in missiles.

None the less accidents happen but so do programs.

Accidents during testing of rockets is not unheard of.

You might also question how exactly you go about ending a test of a nuclear powered cruise missile.

The exact nature of the point the test ended is not going to be clear because it was a classified/top secret project, so we arn't privy to exactly what happened at the end as being an accident.

Also some scientists and people of high value on high profile projects traditionally become targets so their deaths/disappearance is not necesarily to be taken at face value, especially if non confirmable. Like how exactly do you identify bodies of people caught in an atomic blastwave?

https://gizmodo.com/mysterious-russi...eir-1837218319

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Maybe the video is spoof???

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, Russian nuclear agency Rosatom finally admitted that an explosion at one of its facilities created a cloud of radiation that spread across the region.
Apparently the missile didn't cause the radiation an explosion ... at a nuclear facility caused it.... according to Russia the missile was a liquid fuel rocket but perhaps unrelatedly there was an explosion at a nuclear facility.... it is not known if the missile hit a nuclear facility... hence NUCLEAR FUELED MISSILE EXPLOSION ACCIDENT.. clearly as this occured in Russia, it is easy to misunderstand the situation if not looking at it objectively. US military intelligence take note.



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Rosatom is the entity developing the missile and the nuclear propulsion system exploded in the testing facility. So both statements are true.
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I think tomorrow the UNSC is suppose to have a closed door meeting on Kashmir.

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us threatens to sanction uk government / courts

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/u...t-release.html

Just wow..

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They argued that the U.K. should think of the tanker issue in terms of the broader relationship with the U.S., particularly as Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s government presses forward with departing the European Union and seeks a free-trade agreement with the U.S.
If the US wants to privateer the tanker, they have more than enough military assets to do so and should stop whining and do their own piracy. Seriously why is the US complaining about being unable to seize the tanker? If they have grounds to seize the tanker, then why don't they shut up and seize the tanker. Is there something magical about the UK government violating their COURT ORDER whereby that illegal act by the UK government would make justified a US seizure it is just demented.

It is just the US state department saying, hey UK GOV violate your own courts and treat them like kangaroo courts that don't need to be listened to cause clearly dictatorship and the absence of rule of law more closely aligns with mutual US/UK international interests. Government criminality is the only acceptable option, clearly we must seize british bank assets because the UK and UK government are adhering to their own law.


Seriously, is that how sick the US state department has gotten? Threatening to seize a presumably allied states bank assets for following their law?

I think the US will be more or less burning their bridges with any ally that takes us threatens to sanction uk government / courts

The US is saying it is Iranian oil without any actual evidence the oil is from Iran. The US is passing judgement and saying they will enforce sanctions without evidence of violation simply because a ship is Iranian, that goes well beyond the US sanctions that in fact have no force or effect outside US jurisdiction legally but a reminder US law effects the citizens of the US and their jurisidiction not Europeans or Africans in their jurisidcition. Again those are American acts of war, not law. I'm sure the US would be outraged if some other state started telling them the nature of trade that was legal in the US and that US citiznes would be robbed and thrown in jail if they didn't adhere to some other countries rules on trade. Seriously, just absurd. They arn't even dealing with the US or in US jurisidiction. I'm pretty sure threatening the UK's justices and court system is a crime in the UK. You can't threaten to take measures against a judge legally for their legally justified ruling... it is utterly illegal. The UK should be booting the US state department from the UK for for making such unlawful statements and declaring the US state department personas non grata for clearly criminal conduct.

If anyone threatened a US judge similarly it would be a crime in the US also. Seriously, if you make your ruling we will seize your bank accounts... to a judge. We demand you give us that persons assets illegally or we will seize yours to a judge.... seriously. Disgusting. Utter interferance in court process and interferance in an internal UK court matter, by the US state dept. Their are justice dept to justice dept channels for making legal requests, the US state department threatening illegal reprisals against the EU and UK is totally unacceptable.


The whole issue is faulty because Iran ships its oil to Syria by land, not by Sea and Syria does not have any ports capable of housing the Grace1.


Also I also want to understand how the GRACE 1 is owned by the IRGC?????

Makes no sense.

Or are they saying any funds to Iran or Iranians now equals indirect funding of the IRGC so anyone who aids an Iranian business is aiding the IRGC so is subject to US sanctions? Trying to understand the reasoning on this.



https://lloydslist.maritimeintellige...ons-over-cargo


Where is the link to the IRGC.. someone explain
Owner RUSSIAN TITAN SHIPPING LINES - DUBAI, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
Manager RUSSIAN TITAN SHIPPING LINES - DUBAI, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES

Russian Titan Shipping, a subsidiary of Dubai-based oil and energy shipping company TNC Gulf.. is DUBAI based TNC GULF an IRGC front??


We've already established the ships arn't turning off their transponders they are being jammed by Iran.


What is maryam ghaghazaniyan's link to the IRGC?

What is Toraj Jafari's link to the IRGC... he appears to have moved out of university into TNC operations.. when did he join the IRGC or what is his link to the IRGC???
Are Toraj and Mohammad Jafari related??? Where is the link?

(This post was mutalated by the reoccurence of someone flooding threads and inserting and reinserting parts of the post, so if there is duplication of information it is because the post was hacked.)


Where is the link to the IRGC??? Has the state department explained this link somewhere?

Where exactly is the material support between the IRGC and Grace 1 coming from? Was evidence of this provided by the state dept?

https://www.euronews.com/2019/08/15/...tanker-grace-1


BUT now, the US is saying any country that allows the Grace 1 to dock will face sanctions....irespective of the destination of the oil or source of the oil. Because the US is viewing the Grace 1 as an extesion of the IRGC and thus terrorist activities... WHERE IS THE LINK?
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Might be time to see what Russia is willing to supply Middle EAST power with?

Plus how much it will all cost them?
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Weird Iran has now flagged what was the Grace1 with the flag of Iran (previously flagged by Panama) and the weird part, they have renamed the ship.. but the name given is the name of another Iranian ship that is a tug boat.............

https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels...MMSI-422080500


US meanwhile has put out a federal warrant to be executed by the federal marshall service --- or other authorized law enforcement agency??? (I assume for a a ship named Grace1 not Adarian Darya - and a new crew -- was previous staffed by Indian seamen.... not sure where the new crew is from..... or if there are security personnel included....)

The new name of the ship sounds a bit like Dare ya.

Wonder if the name being the same as another ship was to add confusion???

Question remaining also will Chinese owned ports in Greece allow the ship to dock... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-china-s-ports

Iran said the tanker would sail to Greece and then to Italy ... (belt and road magic, with the string of Chinese owned and operated ports in Europe... maybe.... since these ports are taking on Iranian oil in bonded storage that doesn't violate the US sanctions on Iran. ) http://www.pipeserv.gr/projects/oil-...-terminal.html https://www.portseurope.com/chinese-...al-challenges/ China's ability to subvert US economic controls seems part of the larger game.
https://www.maritime-executive.com/a...n-oil-shipment

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-i...-idUSKCN1PU0XX

https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielco.../#477ae25a3b62


Parallel...
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-N...s-On-Iran.html


COSCO is the purchaser of the tanker, as well it owns Piraeus. So this whole thing may be anotehr side story to the Ongoing US CHINA trade war... and specifically the belt and road and China's relationship with EUROPE.. and more specifically US sanctions to COSCO????

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_COSCO_Shipping

COSCO selling us assets... https://www.wsj.com/articles/cosco-s...on-11556595995

https://www.marketscreener.com/COSCO...rade-28886920/
In fact this ship thing may playout on a global scale... just think what would happen if the US sanctioned COSCO or attempted to seize or freeze COSCO assets in the US.. unimaginable..... this would have massive effect on the US economy and the global economy itself... it would be a major major deal so big, it is hard to imagine the US doing it but if it did... it might really be large enough to change the relationship between china and the US on all trade issues. COSCO operates close to 500 ships globally. http://en.people.cn/n3/2019/0505/c90000-9574887.html

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A Chinese businessman who opened a company in Iran told the Global Times on condition of anonymity that the sanctions have an impact on Chinese companies in Iran, especially state-owned enterprises (SOEs) such as China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC), Sinopec and Cosco Shipping.

"Most SOEs signed a 'pay back' contract with the Iranian government, which states that Chinese firms invest and construct projects in Iran and Iran repay the investment in the form of petroleum exports.

HOWEVER,... the new element is that the US has said it is not a matter of violating oil sanctions on Iran but rather now dealing with the tanker is providing material support to Terrorism because some yet unknown link to the IRGC and the tanker, in that the tanker/the oil is considered material support for the IRGC... and thus anyone who allows the ship to dock will be sanctioned by the US for providing material support to terrorism.. CRAZY. I want to see what the link is between this ship and the IRGC, can't find it myself.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/201..._138309093.htm

THUS since the ship wasn't violating oil sanctions.... the US how now used the designation of the IRGC as a terrorist organizationto somehow link that this tanker, since it is linked to the government of Iran is also providing material support for the IRGC.. this creates a very murky situation for any Iranian government thing that generates income, as now it could be seen as providing material support for terrorism.... very odd.. basically they have seeminly said everything Iran does is now supporting terrorism so anyone dealing with Iran can be subject to sanctions for providing material support to terrorism. I think this may be a stretch of terror designation as Iran is a state not a terrorist organization... should just be assumed be war measures. BEAR IN MIND, the ship is privately owned not owned bythe Iranian government, and there is no known link between the Dubai based business that owns it and the Iranian government and IRGC.. but not saying it doesn't exist, just not sure what the link is beyond some of the upper management being iranian (not everyone is Iranian in the businessbut operations and management are, but there is no known link to the IRGC at this point other than one of hte managers having the same last name as the former head of the IRGC.. no known relationship between the two)

Also if the new crew is manned from Libyan and African migrants, will the ship be sunk by the Italian Coastguard

I'm sure Europe is looking at that tanker like a cokehead does a line of coke.

https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Int...ize-Libya.html




Kashmir escalates....
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/india-...ourt-1.5249291
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So plain and clear from all of this documentation how the Muslim influence in Kashmir and, through out the rest of the world has made living conditions for regular people intolerable.
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So plain and clear from all of this documentation how the Muslim influence in Kashmir and, through out the rest of the world has made living conditions for regular people intolerable.
Kashmir is mostly populated by Muslims, it was the Hindu Nationalist government in Inida that imposed martial law there and cut off all communications. Not sure how you came to the conclusion that Muslims are making muslims lives intolerable in Kashmir???
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Kashmir is mostly populated by Muslims, it was the Hindu Nationalist government in Inida that imposed martial law there and cut off all communications. Not sure how you came to the conclusion that Muslims are making muslims lives intolerable in Kashmir???
Muslims are reason for others living badly. Example, people of IRAN hate their Muslim government. And, good muslims who are forced to live in hate.
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So here we are coming up to the thread's Fourth Anniversary .

I'm not sure I can hold my breath much longer....
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So here we are coming up to the thread's Fourth Anniversary .

I'm not sure I can hold my breath much longer....

With the American Navy getting ready to interdict the Iranian Grace 1 Tanker and Iran ready to test new ICBM`S along with the secret Underground Military Facility`s running full speed I`d get ready to Exhale!. Something will happen Soon.
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Everyday someone is committing suicide for their cause. Often it involves MURDER of the innocent. Just a matter of some more effort until some terrorist group loads something into battery to strike many of us? So, get ready and say some prayers.
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Something will happen Soon.

One of the most repeated phrase in this thread. Right along with...
"any day now"
"just a few more weeks"

So, I just have to ask... are y'all going to be like those financial dip ****s who predict a market crash every year for 20 years, then when the market takes a little dip, they have the nerve to claim they were the ones to predict it?
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One of the most repeated phrase in this thread. Right along with...
"any day now"
"just a few more weeks"

So, I just have to ask... are y'all going to be like those financial dip ****s who predict a market crash every year for 20 years, then when the market takes a little dip, they have the nerve to claim they were the ones to predict it?
We'll just have to wait and see
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Well, IM Right, you are right this time.
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