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Torstar is the owner of VerticalScope. Torstar bought the majority ownership of VerticalScope for 200 million in 2015.

It was announced last week that Torstar is selling for 52 million.

Pretty huge discrepancy in those millions and not in a good way for VerticalScope and its forums.

If the new owners decide they don't want to fool with forums, I wonder if we'll have a warning?

Worried about that since a forum I was on with a lot of activity (not VerticalScope owned and nothing to do with survival related topics) closed in 2018. The forum owners did, thankfully, announce a few months in advance that they were ditching the forum so members had a chance to save info though transferring threads to other sites was prohibited. But now the forum is gone ...no archives, just a notice when you enter the link stating: On April 5, 2018, Low Carb Friends' management announced that LCF's forums would be permanently shut down on Friday, June 1, 2018. That's all there is left of what was a very active forum. Because of the warning in advance of the forum closure, at least we were able to save recipes etc., but the forum owners could've deleted everything without the courtesy of advanced notice.

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Interesting. Thank you for the information.
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I guess we go to another forum if this is shut down.

Oh well
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After reading an interview done by the possible new owners (the purchase goes up for approval in July per the article) I'm somewhat concerned about how they will treat SB and hope they sell us to a US based company that is more inline with our members.

from the article ďThe progressive reporting is what we support, and quite frankly, thatís exactly why we brought David in. Someone with an incredible reputation who lives those values every day,Ē he said.

Peterson said if he thought Bitove and Rivett were about to swing the Starís political perspective to the right, he wouldnít have signed on.

ďOver my dead body. These guys didnít bring me in because Iím pretty. I know them. These arenít partisan, mean-spirited people. This isnít the United States. Itís not that kind of thing. But Iím going to be very involved in this and I have responsibilities. One is to maintain the Atkinson Principles. I believe them, and these guys believe in them,Ē said Peterson.

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When "Name" left he started a rival forum. There is a link somewhere
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After reading an interview done by the possible new owners (the purchase goes up for approval in July per the article) I'm somewhat concerned about how they will treat SB and hope they sell us to a US based company that is more inline with our members.

from the article “The progressive reporting is what we support, and quite frankly, that’s exactly why we brought David in. Someone with an incredible reputation who lives those values every day,” he said.

Peterson said if he thought Bitove and Rivett were about to swing the Star’s political perspective to the right, he wouldn’t have signed on.

“Over my dead body. These guys didn’t bring me in because I’m pretty. I know them. These aren’t partisan, mean-spirited people. This isn’t the United States. It’s not that kind of thing. But I’m going to be very involved in this and I have responsibilities. One is to maintain the Atkinson Principles. I believe them, and these guys believe in them,” said Peterson.

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That's even more concerning. With a progressive agenda, it's more likely that they'll do away with a conservative site like SB than try to find a sympathetic buyer.

Good to know that the sale doesn't go through until July. Gives us time to save important info. I've done a good bit of that through the years in case of a SHTF scenario in which the net goes down, but need to review what I've saved and fill in the gaps. Offline storage of things we learn here is an important prep and something we all need to do even if SB rocks along forever.
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That's even more concerning. ...need to review what I've saved and fill in the gaps. Offline storage of things we learn here is an important prep and something we all need to do even if SB rocks along forever.
Indeed, quoted for emphasis..

..However, encouragingly, it Does look like there've been quite a few 'cache-points' over the years... https://web.archive.org/web/*/https:...istboards.com/

And I don't - believe - (?) those can be "scrubbed" by any new Proggy-ownership, so... Hope for the 'stragglers', at least, to get stuff DL'd / cached ASAP, in consideration of the possibility this place could all go bye-bye soon (Or, maybe even worse, become Heavily censored / 'Progressivized'..

Dark times, all around...
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Do you think Kev might chime in?? Helloooooo
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After reading an interview done by the possible new owners (the purchase goes up for approval in July per the article) I'm somewhat concerned about how they will treat SB and hope they sell us to a US based company that is more inline with our members.

from the article “The progressive reporting is what we support, and quite frankly, that’s exactly why we brought David in. Someone with an incredible reputation who lives those values every day,” he said.

Peterson said if he thought Bitove and Rivett were about to swing the Star’s political perspective to the right, he wouldn’t have signed on.

“Over my dead body. These guys didn’t bring me in because I’m pretty. I know them. These aren’t partisan, mean-spirited people. This isn’t the United States. It’s not that kind of thing. But I’m going to be very involved in this and I have responsibilities. One is to maintain the Atkinson Principles. I believe them, and these guys believe in them,” said Peterson.

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I read the whole article you linked.

With the views they talk about, five minutes spent reading the politics sub-forum here, is not going to leave the new owners impressed/happy.

Perhaps the forum management should consider acting preemptively and killing off the politics section and banning new posts about politics.

At least that way, these boards may survive (and with the vast archives of survival discussions/information intact).

The politics threads are typically about the news of the day anyway - so their value as an archive resource is less arguable.
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We need to all make a backup plan. This should be something we had down already when you think about it.

We should also prolly have a system for contact should the net go down.
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I read the whole article you linked.

With the views they talk about, five minutes spent reading the politics sub-forum here, is not going to leave the new owners impressed/happy.

Perhaps the forum management should consider acting preemptively and killing off the politics section and banning new posts about politics.

At least that way, these boards may survive (and with the vast archives of survival discussions/information intact).

The politics threads are typically about the news of the day anyway - so their value as an archive resource is less arguable.

Did a little more research and reading. I don't think dialing back on politics matters so long as there are gun forums here. Survivalist Boards isn't even listed on VerticalScope's website. No gun related forums are though they own a good many. All gun related forums were removed from the website in 2018.
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Thank you for bringing this topic out. Interesting on the gun issue. I have to say, this is something that many on here have spoken about. Censorship can happen in many ways. Removing platforms of rather highly individual people is one way.
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I have been on other VS forums and when they decide to make big changes we will see a mass exodus, but the site will remain open for the next generation of new people to come in, they won't know any better, they will be used to the ads and censorship. It will be new and exciting to them.

The saddest part is, VS now owns all of your content. Everything everyone posted to help someone else they are making a profit off of.

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A new forum can be spun up real quick if this becomes a real issue.

I'd hate to do that because I wouldn't want to compete with SB but it might not be a bad idea to get things up and running in case things do go south.
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A new forum can be spun up real quick if this becomes a real issue.

I'd hate to do that because I wouldn't want to compete with SB but it might not be a bad idea to get things up and running in case things do go south.
Seriously, most people could run this site off their home computer. You don't need some expensive corporate server like you did when this site started. There's enough years worth of posts that you might need some serious hard drive space to keep it all, but as far as the daily operations it's nothing big.
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And this is one of the ways the left suppresses all right wing media,
Now we have to watch what we say so we don't **** off our new communist overlords?
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Seriously, most people could run this site off their home computer. You don't need some expensive corporate server like you did when this site started. There's enough years worth of posts that you might need some serious hard drive space to keep it all, but as far as the daily operations it's nothing big.
Nah. But with the traffic you'd still need a real server... With up-to-date vBulletin software... With a good modding policy so that the trolls don't take over the board and make the entire site toxic and drive away new and old members alike...

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