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Old 05-29-2020, 10:21 PM
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I found a Beretta PX4 Storm .45acp used for $370. This will be my first .45 so was looking for some of y'alls preferred hole drillers as a starting point. Depending on how I like it it might go into my rotation so would like to have some defense loads for it.
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I'm a fan of the Federal HST 230gr JHP dose.
You can get it in +P or regular strength, and I wouldn't doubt either.
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My carry choices are these two; arguably at the top of the heap for defensive loads:

Federal HST 230 gr JHP; standard velocity (not +P)
Speer Gold Dot 230 gr JHP; again standard pressure load (+P version is a 200 gr bullet)

I generally just stick to standard pressure 230 grain JHP. Either of those two premium loads. I'm stocked deeply on the Speer version, but HST is easily its equal. I shoot both.

If all you can find are the +P flavors... they'll work just fine. A little faster, a little deeper penetration. A little bit more recoil.
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I found a Beretta PX4 Storm .45acp used for $370. This will be my first .45 so was looking for some of y'alls preferred hole drillers as a starting point. Depending on how I like it it might go into my rotation so would like to have some defense loads for it.
I only load and shoot 230 grain hardball in my two 1911 .45ACP's. That's what they were designed to shoot, so who am I to argue with that?
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HST's and gold dots are also my go to's.
I typically go with the second heaviest bullet weight. (I have a lot of different calibers)
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I have a range of .45acp ammo on hand but my defensive choice is 200gr Gold Dot +P, sometimes known as the Flying Ashtray.
For a couple reasons. I liked the performance specs when I was researching it...and then I came across a killer deal on bulk so I stocked up on it.
At the risk of starting another .45 comparison argument...I will say that I had to fiddle with my two 1911's to get it to feed reliably. I got one to the point where I can trust it but the other can still be hit or miss. On the rare occasions that I decide to carry that one I just load it with ball and don't feel under gunned. Just because she chokes on +P HP's occasionally doesn't mean she doesn't deserve to get out and ride around now and then .


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As stated above, Speer Gold Dot and Federal Hydra-Shok are the two go-to defensive rounds.
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Find a hollowpoint that's accurate and reliable in your pistol.
There are no bad loads in a 45 ACP.
There's no need to overthink things
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I carry Hornady Critical Duty.
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Based on the ballistic gelatin testing
I went with Winchester 230 grain Ranger T
Nothing else comes close

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/sel...llistic-tests/

Also really like the Underwood Penetrators with the Lehigh Defense bullet

Also like a Lead alloy bullet from MP molds
230 grain HP
Use 50/50 lead/ wheel-weights and powdercoat
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Mr.Swilling, you have done some homework. You are correct sir, in making folks aware of the L.G.'s. Ballistics Tests.
That said, I would still be interested in witnessing the same projectiles shot into animal carcasses ( Test on ...tissue & bone)
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Find a hollowpoint that's accurate and reliable in your pistol.
There are no bad loads in a 45 ACP.
There's no need to overthink things
I fully intend to if I like it enough to carry. Given ammo price and availability at this time it is wise to narrow the field.

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Based on the ballistic gelatin testing
I went with Winchester 230 grain Ranger T
Nothing else comes close

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/sel...llistic-tests/

Also really like the Underwood Penetrators with the Lehigh Defense bullet

Also like a Lead alloy bullet from MP molds
230 grain HP
Use 50/50 lead/ wheel-weights and powdercoat
I can not justify spending money on underwood E.P. after the absolutely abysmal results with the box of .500 S&W that I tried. I will add the winchester ammo to the short list.
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The thing about modern .45 ACP JHP ammo brands is... they're all pretty good. HST, Gold Dot, Ranger T, Winchester PDX, Remington Golden Saber, Federal Hydra-Shok, Hornady Critical Defense, etc. Gold Dot, HST, and Ranger are long proven choices among LEO agencies issuing that caliber.

As mentioned by Snyper708, find a load that feeds reliably and hits accurately out of your pistol. Then find the best pricing for a decent quantity of that load. Enough for both routine practice and carry.

If all you can find locally is affordable bulk Winchester White Box JHP... it'll still do. So will most standard 230 gr brands of FMJ.

If large animals are a consideration, Buffalo Bore offers two good loads. Both +P Hard Cast Flat Nose. I carry BB's heavier Outdoorsman 255 gr version for frequent late night black bears & occasional lions.
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I take a different route to carry ammo...

I use Winchester White Box JHPs in my 9mm and my old 45 that I used to have. Remington green and white box also works.

If I were going to use the premium stuff, I’d go with HST or Gold Dot 230gr.
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I fully intend to if I like it enough to carry. Given ammo price and availability at this time it is wise to narrow the field.
The only way to "narrow the field" is by testing ammo in your pistol.

What works in another might not be best for yours, and the differences in terminal ballistics are negligible.
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I like the Lyman 230 gr 452374 on top of Bullseye or 231, reliable feeder. I shot the riflings out of my first 1911 barrel using mostly that bullet. Lots and lots of lead.

I strongly favor picking one load per weapon and shooting that at everything. I likely shoot 10 times as much with my ammo as I could afford too if I bought only factory ammo. Practice is what counts.
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The only way to "narrow the field" is by testing ammo in your pistol.

What works in another might not be best for yours, and the differences in terminal ballistics are negligible.
Well then I guess I will spend $500 to test out 25 different boxes of ammo.

Or

I can ask some people that have tested out many different types to see what they like and start from there.

This concept is not a hard one.
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I use Speer gold dot hp’s Or hornady’s xtp. The xtp’s don’t expand as much as many other hp’s but they penetrate better. So for summer it’s gdhp and winter or hunting it’s xtp’s.
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For me it's Remmington Golden Sabers. They seem to work even in picky guns. My 1911 doesn't care what I put in it but I have a Kahr CW45 that even after a trip back to the factory I get a variety of failures even with FMJ ammo. Golden Sabers are literally the only thing I've never had a failure with in that gun.
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Since it's difficult to find tabulated data...I looked to Lucky Gunner. I had been using Remington Golden Saber. Something most forget is that Remington anything tends to work without problem. At Lucky Gunner, who attempts to duplicate FBI protocol, Rem. Golden Saber worked best.
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