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Old 02-02-2020, 03:47 PM
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WHEN IT comes to survival and all that will entail if the wheels come off?

There really are advantages and disadvantages to both locations, the most obvious being weather related... or maybe not.

Lots of good and bad with both.

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look at it as total grid failure, no asteroid wiping out half the population, no massive plagues or pandemics other than what might be generated by the breakdown of sanitation facilities and maybe dead bodies not being buried.
call it solar flare EMP blast shutting down the planet with total loss of control by authorities and no hope of restructuring the grid.. in your life time.. if ever. Everything fried.

SO

pluses and minuses of each area, including, mountains, SW, NW, wherever you are or want to be.

Make your case...
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Just a first blush, quick response....SE.
Longer growing season and less problems associated with trying to stay alive and warm in winter.

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In the SE, below latitude 32 or 31 deg N gets brutally hot and humid in the summer, unless you are on the cost.
Atlantis is 33.45 degrees N latitude.
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North.

Too many people in the south.

Lot of severe weather, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes etc.

Heat. Off grid heating is far easier than off grid cooling. Malaria will make a comeback and devastate the south when SHTF too.

Its....weird down there. Hard to explain, but if you've always lived north there is something strange about all the people you meet from anywhere further south than about Idaho Falls. Never could put my finger on it....they are just off in some way, I never feel safe down there, always glad to get back up where I belong.
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Go south! Below about 45 degrees is best.

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North.

Too many people in the south.

Lot of severe weather, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes etc.

Heat. Off grid heating is far easier than off grid cooling. Malaria will make a comeback and devastate the south when SHTF too.

Its....weird down there. Hard to explain, but if you've always lived north there is something strange about all the people you meet from anywhere further south than about Idaho Falls. Never could put my finger on it....they are just off in some way, I never feel safe down there, always glad to get back up where I belong.
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I prefer the south at 7200'

35N for me. Atlanta is 33.7


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North.

Too many people in the south.

Lot of severe weather, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes etc.

Heat. Off grid heating is far easier than off grid cooling. Malaria will make a comeback and devastate the south when SHTF too.

Its....weird down there. Hard to explain, but if you've always lived north there is something strange about all the people you meet from anywhere further south than about Idaho Falls. Never could put my finger on it....they are just off in some way, I never feel safe down there, always glad to get back up where I belong.
That is much of what I was going to write when answering the question: "DO YOU think it is more advantageous to be NORTH or SOUTH?"

Although I think it also depends on the situation, what kind of disaster or survival scenario and what people are used to.

If people like hot weather and not used to cold weather or somewhat cool summers they better stay where they are.

There are a few too many huge cities in the north but seems like way too many big cities and crowded areas in general in warm areas.

I like uncrowded areas where I might not see any people for days even weeks at a time. Not sure if there are many areas like that in southern states?

I bought land where there is abundant good clean air and water. Not sure if that is the case in most areas in southern states?

I also really dislike mosquitoes and other biting insects. And high in the Rocky Mountains where I am most familiar, camp, work and Live at 9,500 feet with abundant snow there are usually only mosquitoes etc. from late June to maybe early September.
And not too many mosquitoes etc. at all if it is a dry summer.

I also really like greenhouses where I can grow food more than half the year. And in my mountain area there is abundant deer, elk, moose, grouse and other birds and large numbers of trout in various water ways; mainly a couple lakes, a river and many creeks.

Also wonder if being closer to Canada or Mexico is good or bad? I would say better to be closer to Canada than the possibility of millions coming over the border from many countries most likely over the US - Mexico border.

I just got back from an almost 4 day adventure snowmobiling and snow shoeing in my mountain area here in Wyoming. An 86 year old neighbor wanted me to go along with him up there. He is originally from Alabama but moved to Wyoming when he was 20 and he worked as a teacher at the U of WY even though he could not read very well. He and his wife have a huge cabin about half a mile from my mtn place and needed to melt the snow off of his roof.
It took a day or so running his large wood stove to melt the 6 feet of snow off of his roof and got the temp up to about 90 degrees F. but I likely will make a new pic thread showing and telling about that in the not too distant future.

I also spent a few hours shoveling the snow off of my camper trailer etc. which was hard but good exercise and the air was so extremely clean. More later about that maybe.
Not sure if there is snowmobiling or snowshoeing etc. anywhere in any southern states? Especially with over 6 feet of snowpack even up to 10 or more feet some years. Nice to have 4 different seasons. But that is another interesting topic.

Btw, in Denver today, Feb. 2, 2020, it got up to 71 degrees F. and even 52 F. here in southern Wyoming although it is going to get colder tomorrow. But gradually get warmer even likely up to 80 degrees F. by July.
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North!

DEFINITELY all y'all stay in the north!
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North!

DEFINITELY all y'all stay in the north!
Yup caw.

We gotz mean scary things down this way.
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Yup caw.

We gotz mean scary things down this way.
I think the movie Deliverance greatly helped prove that idea since it was filmed in Georgia...
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North but not any farther north than the Iowa northern border. Any farther than that the winters become to much to deal with and the snow fall becomes extreme making living hard.

You still have a good growing season. Summers are not ungodly hot and if you have a basement just being down their even with no power makes it very comfortable.

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I would never want to be in an area that is a hurricane risk area or earthquake prone.
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North but not any farther north than the Iowa northern border. Any farther than that the winters become to much to deal with and the snow fall becomes extreme making living hard.
Indeed. You all better stay down there....its way too cold up here for humans to survive. Also...bears....lots of bears....
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If you live in a large city (blue), then please go north. As far north as you can go. Even on to Canada if you'd like.

If you live a nice country or smaller town (red) life, Yankees included, then come on down.
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I think the movie Deliverance greatly helped prove that idea since it was filmed in Georgia...
Georgia is above the I10, they are yankees.
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Georgia is above the I10, they are yankees.
Interesting and I will take your word about that.
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The country is so big I'm not even sure N/S means much.

I'm pretty sure SW is very different than SE, and NW from NE.

Terms like "Yankee" don't really mean anything for instance in the west.

I think this map really says it all.

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If you live in a large city (blue), then please go north. As far north as you can go. Even on to Canada if you'd like.

If you live a nice country or smaller town (red) life, Yankees included, then come on down.
Speak for your self.

YMMV

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North but not any farther north than the Iowa northern border. Any farther than that the winters become to much to deal with and the snow fall becomes extreme making living hard.

You still have a good growing season. Summers are not ungodly hot and if you have a basement just being down their even with no power makes it very comfortable.

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I would never want to be in an area that is a hurricane risk area or earthquake prone.
I am of a like mind. I consider rural Iowa the sweet spot. Bonus, the people are really nice.
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