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Old 12-16-2013, 10:52 PM
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Something that some people just eat up by you can't see being essential?

Me..... swords.
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It's a tag team death match between sharpened entrenching tools and machetes vs. bow drill sets and contractor garbage bags.
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Machetes for sure. I see them on about half of newcomer's BOB inventory threads here. If you don't live in an vast region of very dense ground vegetation they are just a big hunk of metal you lug around. In the US I can only think of two areas where you will get frequent use of then. Louisiana bayou country and the Everglades.
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Machetes for sure. I see them on about half of newcomer's BOB inventory threads here. If you don't live in an vast region of very dense ground vegetation they are just a big hunk of metal you lug around. In the US I can only think of two areas where you will get frequent use of then. Louisiana bayou country and the Everglades.
I'm going to go out on a limb here....but .308 rifles, specifically those set up for being a "sniper". If folks are willing to put in the range time (and $$$) to be proficient that is one thing. It has been my experience that most folks simply don't put in the time and $$$ to make this kind of investment worth it. Better off with a M-4 variant that the average person can use with minimal practice.

BOBs are another. People seem to spend quite a bit of $$ on a bag like it is some sort of magical panacea. They loose site of the fact that a bag is simply something to carry their stuff in.


One thing I don't see many folks spending time on is a luxury or 2. Mental well being is supremely important. I always carry a travel pillow. Simply being able to place my head on a pillow at night is a huge mental health benefit for me.
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People actually prep swords? Um... okay.

Moving on.

Im not going to name a specific item. Ill just say that people tend to go overboard and get lots of different ways to do the same thing instead of one really good way of doing it with some backups.
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Preppers who think they have it together.
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i vote for the overwhelming amount of weapons. I mean sure you need to defend yourself but ten pocket knives, an axe, machete, multiple guns with often infinite ammo. I think most people would be so out of breath carrying it they couldnt raise a hand to fight back.
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lol...nice bash thread....


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Machetes for sure. I see them on about half of newcomer's BOB inventory threads here. If you don't live in an vast region of very dense ground vegetation they are just a big hunk of metal you lug around. In the US I can only think of two areas where you will get frequent use of then. Louisiana bayou country and the Everglades.
in most cases i agree with you but you forgot us up here in the cascades, since it's constantly raining the under brush out here is out of control, I've come home with blood pouring from my shins and a day and a half late on a ramble or two until i started using a machete....

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if your exploring that sort of thing can go on for days....dried up creek beds and small clearings are a god send...

roads less traveled and all of that.
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Take any piece of cheap camping gear, knife, axe,etc, and paint it black and call it
"Survival" or " Tactical"... I am still amazed at the amount of crap that gets remarketed
to a new legion of wannabees and mall ninjas. If folks spent more time learning to use
common sense rather than wasting money on toys, they would be far better prepared.
If you do not know how to correctly use a knife, a $400 knife will be just as useless as
a $ 4 knife...
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A stove......I can build a fire and do the same thing. Make stuff get hot.
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in most cases i agree with you but you forgot us up here in the cascades, since it's constantly raining the under brush out here is out of control, I've come home with blood pouring from my shins and a day and a half late on a ramble or two until i started using a machete.....
Fair enough. I'm sure there will be a few other locations I missed but my underlying point remains. Unless your home region is impossible to travel through on foot without constantly hacking your way through the undergrowth then a machete is just a boat anchor.
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I would have to say camelbacks.
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any piece of equipment that gets put into storage and never tested/learned first hand.
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tomahawks. Whats the average person going to do with one?
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Pocket chain saws.

And anything bearing a Bear Gryllis logo.
Exactly. http://www.gerbergear.com/content/search?SearchText=

How about the Bear Grylls survival kit for $52 on page 2, with it's very own pocket chain saw.

Personally, I think Bear Grylls himself is overrated and people who buy the stuff with his name on it are Posers.
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Swedish knives.
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Without a doubt I'd say firearms.
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Knives. If you have a couple good ones, that's all you need. Chances are you already have a 3 or 4 in the kitchen.
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I'll probably upset a few people with this but some of those 'wilderness water filters', like the life straw are over rated. Also, fire starters like flint and steel, air pistons, etc. Sure, they're cool and fun, but if you have a couple of those ferro rods in your bag and no bic lighters you're doing it wrong.
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