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View Poll Results: Do you keep a round in the chamber?
Yes, Always 84 84.00%
Only when I leave the house 9 9.00%
Never 7 7.00%
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They will blow your ears out. Better have brick walls if you miss.

I have a suppressed 5.56 SBR. By the time you add the can it is rifle long and still loud. It is too long inside the house and you can bang it easy when deploying. If I had a wid open mansion, then maybe.

Inside the house I'm with MA Survivalist, I like pistols. And I also have a short 12GA shotgun.
Going inside buildings in Afghanistan, none of us put away our rifles.

Have you ever shot a pistol inside a house? Hell, my aunt accidentally discharged a .22 pistol in her house and it penetrated three walls and a door before getting lost somewhere inside.

When I come out of my room and look to my left, my entire family was already safely behind my line of fire. I also had electronic ear pro by the bed.

People use pistols because they’re easy to carry around town, not because they’re amazing show stoppers. They’re slow, have poor kinetic energy transfer, they’re inaccurate, have low ammo capacity.

Long gun is where it’s at. Be competent, have the right gear, have a plan, train it up. Done.

Too bad I had to sell all of mine.
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I don't keep a round chambered. If I chamber a round I'm going to fire it - that's how I practice anyway - so, keeps things consistent and error/accident free.
Donít discount the fact that these situations are dynamic. Just because you chamber a round does not mean itís time to fire it.
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I stopped carrying one in the chamber since my daughter was born. It was the compromise my wife and I made.
You need to control your woman.
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Easier said than done.
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Easier said than done.
Seems to be easy for her.
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While I don't care for a lot of his opinions, this was funny;

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Old person here.
No kids in the house, etc.
Glock 26 on my right, OWB, round chambered almost 24x7 (until I take my pants off)
Glock 17 in a holster (round chambered) in a holster that hangs on the side of the bed.
2xSKS w/20 round mags in my office chambered. (10 extra 20 round mags ready)

Winchester 1200 20g chambered
Cheap old single shot 20g, just cock the hammer. (Basement)
Mossberg .410 ready to go.
KelTec 9mm and .380 ready.
TC Venture X2 loaded, chambered 30-06

TC Encore Pro Hunter, loaded ready 30-06

Walther PPK/S ready
Walther PPK/s-22 ready
Cheap Rossi .410 single shot, loaded ready
2X Marlin model 60, loaded ready
My muzzleloader is not loaded. Keep safety in mind.


If you are old, and have no little kids in the house, keep them all loaded and ready. Put at least one in every room of the house. This is not being "badass", this is being prepared. Make sure to take them all out to the range about once a month to let them play and have fun.
That's about it.
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If it's not in condition one, then it's a fancy hammer,
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If it's not in condition zero, then it's a fancy hammer,
Fixed it for ya!
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I've lived alone for the last 20 years. Loaded gun in every room including the bath. I do not want to fiddle-**** around if ever. I pocket carry so can't/won't comment on the holster thing. Have a Mosin in the trunk with 20 rounds. That is the only one out of the safe that isn't loaded.
I'd much prefer an antagonist to hear the shotgun fired as opposed to being racked. As I'm pretty much deaf, there must be others.
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The ones in my safes aren't loaded. The ones placed strategically around my house, yes.
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Personally my EDC and my nightstand pistols stay in condition 0 and 1 respectively... and I guess the SP101 in my work desk drawer you could add as condition 0. Shotguns are kept loaded, but not chambered. Until recently I kept an AR next to the bed with mag loaded but not chambered. Since the riots I have decided it is time to keep it at the ready.. round chambered, safety on. Most of my other guns that are not in the safe (file cabinet, drawer next to my couch, hallway closet, etc.) have a loaded mag inserted but are not chambered.
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This thread is yet another example where there is so much fail compared to a good firearms forum

Condition One was created by Jeff Cooper and by Cooper's definition a 1911 "Cocked and locked"
Is in Condition one
Really a single action deal, but applies to all firearms

The post above saying a no safety striker fired gun, chambered, is in condition "0" is 100% correct

Condition 4: Chamber empty, empty magazine, hammer down.
Condition 3: Chamber empty, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition 2: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition 1: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety on.
Condition 0: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety off.
Condition 0 is considered "ready to fire;" as a result, there is a risk of accidental or negligent discharge carrying in Condition 0.

So my FNX .45 ACP Tactical is in Condition 0 as would be any firearm chambered with no safety or no safety on and cocked or able to fire in double action
Condition 2 is chambered but not even close to condition 0

I just do not get the lack of critical thinking
The thread was ill-conceived from the beginning

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This thread is yet another example where there is so much fail compared to a good firearms forum

Condition One was created by Jeff Cooper and by Cooper's definition a 1911 "Cocked and locked"
Is in Condition 0 or one
Really a single action deal, but applies to all firearms

The post above saying a no safety striker fired gun, chambered, is in condition "0" is 100% correct

Condition 4: Chamber empty, empty magazine, hammer down.
Condition 3: Chamber empty, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition 2: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition 1: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety on.
Condition 0: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety off.
Condition 0 is considered "ready to fire;" as a result, there is a risk of accidental or negligent discharge carrying in Condition 0.

So my FNX .45 ACP Tactical is in Condition 0 as would be any firearm chambered with no safety or no safety on and cocked or able to fire in double action
Condition 2 is chambered but not even close to condition 0

I just do not get the lack of critical thinking
The thread was ill-conceived from the beginning
I dont get why everything has to be so complicated.

The gun is either loaded or its not, and you have to be familiar and competent with what it is youre using, so you know.

And just another reason to be as familiar and competent with as many different types as possible.

If the gun is being used and in your hand, it should be ready to go, and the safety off, if it has one. Why would it be any other way?


All of these are the same, assuming a loaded chamber and in active use...

A single action gun with the hammer cocked, safety off.

A DA gun with the hammer down, safety off.

A striker fired gun, with the safety off, if it has one (some do).


All you need do, is pull the trigger to fire the gun.


No need to overly complicate things, especially on purpose.
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Voted “yes always”, simply because condition 2 wasn’t an option.

We carry SA/DA semi-autos primarily. No mechanical safety. De-cocker (half cocked), but carry fully hammer down (simply due to clothing snag possibility vs not).
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Mine holds five in the chamber and rotates them as God intended.

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Mine holds five in the chamber and rotates them as God intended.

Anti clockwise?
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Anti clockwise?
Thatís only if youíre south of the equator.
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Placing guns strategically around the house sounds like a good way for a burglar to stumble across one. It’s easier to just carry at all times, even at home. Unless you’re putting your guns away in a safe every time you leave the house and then placing them back all over the place when you return. But what a waste of time.

Most people who strategically place guns all over the house are absolutely positive their house can’t be burglarized.

Sure. Ok.
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20 gauge, yes. Always loaded. #4 buck and slugs. Ready in an instant.

The rest, no. Mags loaded and in bandoleers, ready.

No kids, no close neighbors.
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